RADIO CALL / TELEPHONE INTERVIEW — TAPE #784
Q: Mark Russell BellS: Tom Danheiser, “Coast to Coast AM” screenerG: George Noory, host of “Coast to Coast AM”J: Joe, caller from Little RockC: unidentified callerW: Jason Walker, “Newsbreak” announcerR: Ross Mitchell, taped announcements for “Coast to Coast AM”T: Scott, caller from St. PetersburgK: KFI taped announcementH: John, caller from TexasD: dental office receptionistO: Jose, dental office clerk
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I CALLED “COAST TO COAST AM” AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FIRST HOUR ‘OPEN LINES’ PORTION OF THE SHOW ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 6, 2003. I AM INCLUDING IN THE TRANSCRIPT THE CALL THAT FOLLOWED MY OWN BECAUSE OF THE UNUSUAL DISCLOSURE MADE BY GEORGE NOORY DURING THE CONVERSATION.)
S: “Coast,” hang on.
G: “Last week, George, an avid fan of your show died. My uncle, Jack Tolliver, from Wichita, Kansas. Even though you don’t know him, he loved your show. In his last years, “Coast to Coast” was his bright spot, lying in a nursing home bed with diabetes. He was brilliant, articulate, semi-inventor, and an environmental advocate all his life as well as a gentleman who shared his passions with all of us who loved him. Most of us—his friends, his family—were never surprised to find Emails describing your latest topic or comments from the show. And he insisted that we listen to you all the time. The passing of movie stars, diplomats and public figures is always noted in the press by the public but somewhere in the Midwest, an aging, ex-pilot from the war and an avid fan of “Coast to Coast” silently died in his sleep. He left behind a lot of unfulfilled dreams and ideas he was always pursuing. Age never slowed him down. Unfortunately, his body did. I’m sure he is still tuned in to the show each day, just on a higher frequency. And you can bet he’s checking on us to make sure that we still tune in too. Thank you for allowing me to introduce you to Jack Tolliver, an avid fan, genius and my uncle.” Well Terry out there in Seattle, well worth it. Our condolences and I’m glad you’re taking the spirit that you are in this because he is indeed still listening up there. Wasn’t that something? Let me bring you up to speed on some of the stories of the day. And let me tell you there are many. Get ready for this. Sit back and relax on these. Seven asteroids circling the sun between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter are being named for the astronauts who died in the space shuttle Columbia accident. Astronauts Rick Husband, Willam McCool, Michael Anderson, Kalpana Chawla, David Brown, Laurel Clark of NASA, and Ilan Ramon of Israel died, of course, on February 1st when Columbia broke up while returning to Earth after a 16- day orbital mission. The named asteroids were discovered by former JPL astronomer Elinore Helin. She is very good, by the way, at what she does. She tracks asteroids. Asteroids, of course, have been around for billions of years and these will remain for billions more. There are more than 100,000 known asteroids, most of them orbiting the Sun in a belt between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. And we felt it important to name seven of them from these fallen astronauts. A federal court, by the way, has set the value of moon rocks heisted from the Johnson Space Center in Houston at more than $5 million based upon what they say it cost the United States to go and get them rather than what they might sell for on the open market. All this is because of a court case here where a couple of NASA interns stole moon rocks. They wanted to sell them. Well they got caught and now they’re going to have to pay the price. They’re getting ten years where they’re going to have to spend their time aboard the International Space — now that I’m kidding with. That I’m kidding with but each will serve the first 180 days of this sentence in home detention and will do 150 hours of community service. They’re lucky they really didn’t get a more severe punishment for that. But they’re valuing those moon rocks at about $5 million. A serious story here. A new theory links Sudden Infant Death Syndrome — it’s called SIDS — all of us who have had kids in our lives, you know exactly what I’m talking about because how many of . . .
S: “Coast to Coast.” What’s your name?
Q: Hi. My name is Mark.
S: Hi, Mark. Where are you calling from, buddy?
Q: From the San Fernando Valley.
S: Oh, I live in the San Fernando Valley. How about that?
Q: Where do you live?
S: I live in Hanson Hills up on — it’s a little cul-de-sac in —
S: It’s actually I think Arleta. I get — I get mail —
S: — from, like, four different cities . . .
Q: Yeah, I’m in Canoga Park.
S: . . . I don’t know. Oh you’re — you’re kind of relatively close. What is your name again, sir?
S: Okay, Mark, what did you want to say tonight?
Q: Well I’m someone who has objects materialize around me and some of the things I’ve heard George say makes me think he’s had some experience. For example: that time that the penny stood on end.
Q: But actually I — I also wanted to ask him about Uri Geller because I know he interviewed him once.
S: Um-huh. (“AND”)
Q: To see what George has to say.
S: Okay. Good question. Hold on, okay?
G: . . . may return these babies to the environment of the womb where their mothers supplied them with oxygen through their blood. The reason we can’t find the medical cause of this death is because it is in the mind of the infant, according to this scientist. He argues that making the sleeping environment less womb-like will reduce the risk of SIDS. There are a number of new measures other than sleeping the baby prone and avoiding excessive bed covering that can be taken to reduce the risk even further. One could add some white noise, as he calls it, like a radio playing out of tune. He said his book Memory and Dreams: The Creative Human Mind will help families. This is a very controversial theory. Now some of you who are animal lovers like I am might find this story I’m going to give you disturbing but I’m going to give it to you anyway because I think you need to know what some people are doing. If for some reason it disturbs you, it will take me about 20 seconds to tell you it so you might want to cover your ears. This happens in Norway. I have not heard of this happening anyplace else. This is in Norway. Apparently, reptile owners of pythons, these snakes, and they’re illegal to keep, by the way, in Norway. The snakes apparently are getting tired of eating rats so now what some of these people are doing is they are scanning the newspapers for families that are trying to find good homes for their little kittens. And they go and get them and they plop them into the python cage where the python then eats and swallows kittens. It’s a horribly disturbing story and apparently they’re going to try to crack down on these people in Norway. Beyond it being illegal for them to keep these animals as pets — and to give them live animals as feed. And I hope they do. I hope they go after all of them. How many of us drive and how many of us feel like sometimes we are distracted when we drive? Well according to this study, nearly all — all of us drivers in the United States are distracted at some point behind the wheel. The study prepared by the University of Northern California researchers say that 97 percent of the drivers are all dis(tract) — all — all distracted. In the study, it finds that 91 percent are distracted when they’re playing around and manipulating their car radio — just keep it on “Coast to Coast” on your favorite station, you don’t have to worry about tuning around. 71 percent are eating and drinking in the car. 77% talk with a passenger. Only 30 percent they say use cell phones. And others are putting on make-up, some even reading newspapers while driving. Be careful. A 27-year-old woman in Rome, Italy has died of the human form of mad cow disease, marking the first Italian death blamed on that illness that has claimed more than 100 lives in other parts of Europe. Here we go again. Tests show that she may have gotten this disease from eating contaminated beef. They don’t know if she ate it in Italy or in some other country yet. Scientists have developed a fast-acting single shot now, a vaccine that’s called the Ebola Vaccine. Apparently, it makes monkeys immune to this lethal virus six times faster than the humans. (“E[GG]”) And what they’re going to try to do now is test it on some humans in Africa. I would not be one of the first volunteers for this one-shot Ebola vaccine. Not at all. Scientists in Italy have created the world’s first cloned horse, raising the possibility that the next Seabiscuit may not be a movie sequel but the actual horse, for example. Can you imagine that? If they got Secretariat, who probably was one of the best horses ever, and they made another one? That’s very possible. By the way, next hour my guest will be Stephan Quayle. We’re going to talk about genetic engineering. This is right down his alley. Some members though of the racehorse community say nope, they will not be allowed to race and be registered as thoroughbred horses. But let me tell you something. There’s going to be a battle brewing over this one because someone is going to clone a Seattle Slew or a Secretariat. And they’re going to be identical. And if they’re trained the right way, they’ve got the genetics to win. So keep an eye on this story — this is an unbelievable story. Some of you wear glasses — a gel that can be implanted into the eye would enable millions of people to throw away their glasses. An Australian team of eye experts claims that a simple injection of a gel that they have developed into the lens of middle-aged people could prevent sight deterioration. This technique, which is expected to undergo human trials by the end of next year, could be a revolution in optometric surgery. Just take a little shot into the eye. There you go. How about this? How many of you have printed things up on your computer and you get that piece of paper like I’m holding right now. Well very shortly — you thought it was science fiction. It is not. As a matter of fact, a year ago I talked to a guest about computers and he was talking about this. I thought we were talking about 20 years away. A printer that you can buy very soon—it’s expensive—could be able to produce a real life-sized object from images on your computer in 3D using liquid and plaster. And there it would be. So if somebody sends you a picture of a car, you can print it up and actually have the little model of the car plop right out of your printer. You know, yesterday we asked for a little bit of rain in British Columbia. A couple Emails: “George. It started raining in Vancouver at 12 a.m. It rained all night. Keep it up. We could use some more rain.” Another one: “It’s five o’clock Pacific time here in Parksville, Vancouver Island. After not seeing a cloud in the sky for reek — weeks, it’s raining here like there’s no tomorrow. It reminds me of a few years ago when we had the fires in Salmon Arm, British Columbia. And in the morning after the experiment, I saw the darkest rain clouds I’ve ever seen. Keep it up.” Keep it up. So (“NO”) whatever we’re doing in terms of thought and concentration, let’s keep doing that. A swarm of locusts, by the way, in China has forced residents near Shanghai to take drastic measures to stop the insects from settling in. They have shut the lights off at night because the locusts are attracted to the lights. And they’re talking about millions of acres of locusts swarming all over the place. The Pentagon is putting the finishing touches on an electronic voting system that will allow 100,000 military personnel and other Americans living abroad to cast their ballots through the Internet in the next Presidential elections. Hmm. I wonder if that will work. And then let me read you this. And let me tell you something. No matter where you are right now, I want you to stop and listen to this because it is probably one of the most heart warming stories I’ve seen in a long time.
There was this little girl sitting by herself in the park. Everyone passed by her and never stopped to see why she looked so sad. Dressed in a worn pink dress, barefoot and dirty, the girl just sat and watched the people go by. She never tried to speak. She never said a word. Many people passed by her, but no one would stop.
The next day I decided to go back to the park in curiosity to see if the little girl would still be there. Yes, she was there, right in the very spot where she was yesterday, and still with the same sad look in her eyes.
Today, I was to make my own move and walk over to the little girl. For as we all know, a park full of strange people is not a place for young children to play alone. As I got closer I could see the back of the little girl’s dress. It was grotesquely shaped. I figured that was the reason people just passed by and made no effort to speak to her.
Deformities are a low blow to our society, and heaven forbid if you make a step toward assisting someone who is different. As I got closer, the little girl lowered her eyes slightly to avoid my tense stare. As I approached her, I could see the shape of her back more clearly. She was grotesquely shaped in a humped over form. I smiled to let her know it was OK; I was there to help, to talk. I sat down beside her and opened with a simple, “Hello.”
The little girl acted shocked and, stammered a “hi”; after a long stare into my eyes. I smiled and she shyly smiled back. We talked into darkness fell and the park was completely empty. I asked the girl why she was so sad. The little girl looked at me with a sad face and said, “Because I’m different.” I immediately said, “That you are!”; and smiled. The girl acted even sadder and said, “I know.” “Little girl,” I said, “you remind me of an angel, sweet and innocent.” She looked at me and smiled, and slowly she got to her feet and said, “Really?” “Yes, you’re like a little Guardian Angel sent to watch over all people walking by.” She nodded her head yes, and smiled. With that she opened the back of her pink dress and allowed her wings to spread, then she said, “I am, I’m your Guardian Angel,” with a twinkle in her eye.
I was speechless — sure I was seeing things. She said, “For once you thought of someone other than yourself. My job here is done.” I got to my feet and said, ‘Wait, why did no one stop to help an angel?” She looked at me, smiled, and said, “You’re the only one that could see me,” and then she was gone. And with that, my life was changed dramatically.
So when you think you’re all you have, remember, your angel is always watching over you. Like the story says, we all need someone . . . And, every one of your friends is an Angel in their own way. The value of a friend is measured in the heart. I hope your Guardian Angel watches over you always.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: GEORGE DIDN’T READ THE LAST FOUR LINES OF THE STORY AS IT APPEARED AT THE COASTTOCOASTAM.COM WEBSITE.)
G: Pass this one to someone, will you? And we’re going to have Lex put this up on the website if you want to download it and give that a friend. Here are the phone numbers: west of the Rockies (gives number), east of the Rockies (gives number), first time caller line (gives number), and the wild card line is open at (gives number). I’m George Noory, open lines, and this is “Coast to Coast AM.” (commercials) Welcome back to “Coast to Coast” and let’s go to the phones. Open lines. Let’s go east of the Rockies, you’re on “Coast to Coast.” Hi there.
J: Hey, how are you doing, George?
G: Doing great. Thanks.
J: It’s Joe from Little Rock.
G: Hello, Joseph. How are you doing?
J: Oh pretty good. Got a little ghost story for you tonight.
G: Okay, do it.
J: Alright, a little background information. I have a ghost in my house. I know this but don’t know who it is because I’ve lived in the house since it was built. And I also have an old ’40s-era — a head-type tube radio — had it for about 20 years. It’s never had power to it and never worked.
G: That thing’s worth some money so save it.
J: Oh yeah. It’s not going anywhere. But a couple of years ago I was sitting and listening to one of Art’s ‘Ghost to Ghost’ shows.
G: Uh-huh. (“BECAUSE”)
J: Ironically enough. And all of a sudden this radio comes on playing Glenn Miller.
G: Go figure. (laughs)
J: Yeah, I looked around, told the ghost to knock it off because I wasn’t in the mood. And it continued playing for about 15 more minutes. And it’s done this several other times since then but it’s always been ’40s-era music.
G: Well at least he’s picked Glenn Miller, which is not bad music.
J: It’s not bad music but it’s usually Glenn Miller or the Andrews Sisters or something like that.
G: Now you’re sure there’s not some little record in there that’s spinning around and you don’t know about it? You’re sure it’s not a turntable in addition to a radio?
J: Oh I’m positive because we’ve had the back off of it trying to see if it — we couldn’t get it to work. And about half the tubes are missing and —
G: So you’ve got a — a — a somewhat pre- and then in to World War II ghostly figure hanging around somewhere. Maybe it’s attached to the radio?
J: It could be attached to the radio. I — I think it’s just my house ghost messing with me.
G: Well I don’t know. I don’t know but it seems like he’s having a pretty good time doing it.
J: Oh he does. He has fun with us all the time. I — some people have called him a poltergeist but he’s not really — he do(esn’t) — doesn’t do the poltergeist-type things.
G: No. I — I — I don’t see anything wrong, Joe, with a ghost who plays old music. Maybe it’s an old DJ from way gone back. You never know. First time caller line, you’re on “Coast to Coast.” Hi there.
C: Hi, George. How are you?
G: I’m doing fine. Thanks.
C: Hey, thanks for taking my call. I’m a huge fan.
G: Well (or “WEL”) welcome.
C: And what a perfect night for you to take my call and for me to even get through because I have been watching the sky since I was a kid. Ever, you know — I think ever since Chariots of the Gods came out.
G: What are you looking for?
C: Well something that will let me know that there’s something else going on.
G: I’m doing the same thing.
C: But, you know, to me I can’t imagine that there isn’t. Anyway, I’m at work tonight and I go out to do something outside of the warehouse I work in. And it — it’s been cloudy and rainy here for eons. Tonight, it’s finally clear and I’m outside and I — I’m kind of just, you know, I’m looking for Mars because it’s clear.
G: Oh and it’s getting close.
C: Right. So I see this white perfectly round white light and I think it’s a star but then it’s moving. And I think, “Wow, I wonder if that’s a satellite.” Because I’ve seen satellites but they’re pretty far — you know, I mean they’re really tiny and you’ve really got to know, right? (“ICK”)
G: It could be the International Space Station.
C: Yes —
G: That’s a possibility because we — we get a lot of reports on that.
C: Yeah? I(t) — it was so bright and it was moving away from me.
G: Away — was it — was it just kind of moving in — in a — in a normal pattern or was it darting all over the sky?
C: No, it was very steadily going away from me.
G: Yeah, I — I think what you were seeing, most likely, was a satellite and probably the International Space Station because that’s going to look a little bigger than a normal satellite. We’ll be back. We’ll continue to take more of your phone calls on “Coast to Coast AM.”
And then suddenly last summer
And then suddenly last summer
And then suddenly last summer
And then suddenly . . .
(“Suddenly Last Summer” performed by The Motels)
W: This is “Newsbreak.” More help for Nigerian peace keepers in Liberia. Seven U.S. Marines have landed in the war-torn nation and more could soon be on the way. Ferry operators in the New York harbor have been warned to be on the alert for possible terrorist activity. Homeland Security Department says vessels could be soft targets. White House downplaying rumors Secretary of State Colin Powell will not serve a second term. Powell has been visiting with the President in Crawford, Texas. Arnold says yes. Movie actor Arnold Schwarzenegger tossing his hat into the ring to take governor Gray Davis’s spot in October’s recall election. The man who ran on to the baseball field during a Chicago White Sox game and attacked a coach with the Kansas City Royals has been sentenced to two and a half years probation. William Ligue admits to leading his son in that attack on first base coach Tom Gamboa last September. I’m Jason Walker. (commercial)
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G: I, George Noory, can predict the future. Well at least I know what we’ll be talking about tomorrow on the show but my guest Peter Schwartz knows 25, even 50 years into the future. He’s the author of Inevitable Surprises. He’ll be telling us what the business world is preparing for and what you should be doing as well.
S: Hang on, we’ll be right with you.
R: Is a worldwide bio-terror attack looming? George Noory knows.
G: These possibilities of biological weapons are here now. They could be far worse in 30 years. The danger of these bugs cannot possibly be over-estimated. Now the question is can you engineer a bug that will kill them but not us? And that is what the dark geniuses of biotech are working on as we speak, make no mistake.
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Guess there are times when we all need to share a little pain
And ironing out the rough spots
Is the hardest part when memories remain . . .
(“Sad Songs” performed by Elton John)
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G: I did something today — I just had a great time. I was asked to record a little hello greeting to the sailors and marines who were aboard the U.S.S. Iwo Jima, which is off the coast of Liberia. And I came in with engineer Dan Galante today and we recorded a little hello for them and got it out there. And it makes you wonder how many of our troops are all around the world, men and women, people that we sometimes go out and have a little glass of wine with or beer or whatever and just sit back and enjoy ourselves chatting, our friends and our neighbors. And they’re out there. So it was a pleasure indeed to do that. At the top of the hour my guest will be Steve Quayle. We’re going to talk about genetic Armageddon but I’ve got to ask him about cloning that horse and see if you can get another Secretariat or something like that but Steve will be our guest and we’ll be talking with him about that and some other issues as well. The pink dress story about the angel is up on the website on the homepage. You’ll be able to see that and download it if you like, if you want to keep that. I know we’re getting a lot of requests for Emails on that. So go ahead and do that. Lex already has it posted. (“THEY”) Very easy to find. It’s on the homepage under the heading “The Pink Dress.” After Dark Newsletter, the August issue is out. (“NOW”) A lot of it has to do on milk: why our children are growing so quick — quickly. (“I[T]”) There is a recipe for rice milk there for those of you who want to make a batch yourself and try it out. It’s very simple to do. Order (gives number). September will be out soon as well and that will be on human combustion. Boom. (gives number) Order it online: coasttocoastam.com. (commercials) By the way, thanks to the Boise Weekly, which is a newspaper out there in Boise, Idaho, naming “Coast to Coast” the area’s favorite radio program of all time. How about that, huh? Thanks, Steve. Let’s go to our wild card line. You are on “Coast to Coast.” Welcome to the program. Hi there.
T: Hello. How are you doing?
G: I’m doing great.
T: This is Scott from St. Pete.
G: What’s going on, Scott?
T: Well I believe — and I think — I don’t know but I’m not taking a — a hand in this — but I believe I made it rain in where you needed the rain. Where was it? Canada?
G: You might have because of so many — I mean you — you were probably one of many that all added into the bunch, that did something.
T: Yes. I — I sent you an Email a couple minutes ago about being able to call — and the subject title was “I Am The Rainmaker.”
T: Did you receive that?
G: I did get that. That was you.
T: That was me.
T: And I was trying to send you another one but I misspelled your name. (laughs)
G: Everybody does. That’s okay.
T: I forgot the R. But anyway. Yes, I ha(d) — a — there is a chant that I do. I don’t know if you’ve talk — do you remember the chant that I told you about? Do you remember the chant?
G: I don’t remember the chant. No.
T: Okay, the chant is — an(d) if anybody is listening in Canada right now, have pen and paper in hand. You say, “Let the wind blow. Let the lightning flash. Let the thunder roll. Let the rain pour down upon my soul. Let it rain. Let it rain. Forty days and 40 nights. Lord, let the rain wash away our pain.” Now the people out in the Midwest, like out in California and Nevada and all that, where all those forest fires are —
T: I would recommend them to try and saying that . . .
G: Where — where did you get the chant?
T: I made it up, actually.
G: And what’s the accuracy rate with that?
T: Probably about fifty/fifty.
G: You know what? That’s pretty good.
T: Now let me tell you. I — I was on a — I think, as I told you in the Email, I was on the Indian reservation at a boy scout camp one night.
T: And it was raining real hard and I was stuck out in the middle of the rain. And I just looked up at the clouds and (or “AND”) that chant just came into my head. And I kept saying it over and over and over and over again. And the rain would get heavier and the thunder would get harder and the lightning would get worse and worse and worse. It was just — it just kind of freaked me out there for a little bit so I kind of let — let it go. But then one day when it was — when we — I’m here in Florida — Florida and when it was really droughty — and I guess droughty’s not a word but when it was really hot and we needed the rain, I just said it and also did a little — made a little square on the ground with a stick and — I know this is going to sound grotesque but I spit in the middle of it. No lie — 24 hours later, maybe 48 hours, it — it rained.
G: Well as long as you didn’t drop a little cat in — in the middle. Then it would have rained cats and dogs, so to speak. (small laugh)
T: Oh God. No, all we need to do is step on a poodle.
G: I love it. Well keep it up. Keep it up because we needed that kind of rain. It was important to do that. Let’s go to our west of the Rockies line. You’re on (BEEP) (“Coast to Coast”). Hi, there.
Q: Good evening, George.
G: Yes sir.
Q: Hi. Well I’m someone who has objects materialize around me so I have special insight to those that that happens to.
G: Now what do you mean objects materialize around you? Like what?
Q: Mostly coins and occasionally something to make a point. Once a nail bounced off my head.
G: They just show up?
Q: Firewood at the supermarket. An al(mond) —
G: What do you — what do you mean firewood at the supermarket?
Q: Well thi(s) — I was — anyway (“SO I[T’S]”) it’s a long story —
G: Well give me the shorter version. I mean you’re —
Q: Well I was just — I was buying a few objects and —
Q: — as I was going to the cashier, there was a — (“SOME OF THE”) like three big logs of firewood and one of the managers was saying, “Whose firewood is this?” So, anyway, I didn’t volunteer any information at that time . . .
G: (small laugh) Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What if somebody just forgot it? Q: Well when this happens to you consistently — we could get into the — the synchronicity and “May the force be with you” and all that —
G: Yeah but why firewood? Why not bags of money or something like that?
Q: Well these always have a metaphorical meaning. Like I remember the time when you mentioned the penny falling on its side.
Q: You don’t think that was just —
G: Or on it’s — on it’s — I guess —
Q: — happenchance.
G: — side or end. It was standing straight up, whatever that is.
Q: Exactly. But I — what I wanted to ask you about — regarding Uri Geller, who I know you’ve interviewed —
G: Yes. I know him.
Q: — I read the book Uri; a journal of the mystery of Uri Geller by Andrija — I think you pronounce it — Puharich. Anyway, this was an account of a “cosmic being” or “controller,” if you will, that described themselves to the author as an assortment of Principles, Forces and personalities manifesting around Uri. Along with the author, of course.
G: Well, as you know, he — Mr. Geller claims — he doesn’t like to talk about it anymore — that when he was a kid, he was blasted by a beam from a UFO.
Q: Right. And — and so this Force encouraged a movie to be made about him, talked about a “Knowledge Book” that would be coming out. The cosmic being was quoted as saying on page 184: “We bend, move, (“[A]N[D]”) material and dematerialize things.”
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I SHOULD HAVE SAID ‘DEMATERIAL’ [SIC] THINGS.)
G: Well I want to know more about you than Mr. Geller.
G: I want to know do you manifest these objects around you or does — do they just pop up?
Q: Well, just like Uri (P. 142): “Now I really know that it is not me. (“THEY”) They are doing all the work . . .” He said (P. 187): “When I demonstrate my powers, it’s not me. Somebody is trying to show us something, and by this, teaching us . . .”
G: Are they trying to show us something or trying to show you something?
Q: Well, again, various individuals are selected, such as Sai Baba, let’s say. One can speculate about Tiger Woods. But I — I reached the same conclusion, probably even as quickly as Uri did, that (P/ 209): “They put us through heavy tests all the time . . .”
G: Well you know what they’re probably doing, they’re (line disconnected) probably making Tiger Woods’s golf ball pop up (“IN THE”) in the hole after he takes his shot. That’s how he wins all the time. Let’s go to our wild card line. You’re on “Coast to Coast.” Hi, there.
G: How are you?
H: Good. How are you?
G: I’m doing fine.
H: Well I’m — my name is John and I live in a — in Texas. By Dallas.
G: Alright. What’s up, John? What are you calling for?
H: And I want to tell you a story about a — a shadow person. Well you can call it a shadow person or a ghost. I don’t really —
G: You’ve seen this?
G: Okay. Tell me about it.
H: Okay. Well it’s about — well about this time, I — Central time. About twelve or one, I lay back in my bed, you know, trying to go to sleep?
H: And I look up at the ceiling and I see a — this — well sometimes I do. And I see this like — have you ever seen “Darkness Falls,” the movie?
G: Oh yeah. (“IT’S”)
H: It’s kind of scary . . .
G: It’s a lot scary. Especially if you’re — how old are you?
G: Yeah, that’s pretty scary for an eleven-year-old.
H: Yeah, well I see something like that. And it doesn’t come after me. It doesn’t have the eyes or — nothing like that. I(t) — or anything like that. And I look up —
G: It’s just kind of like up there on the ceiling, huh?
H: Yeah. Like it’s attached to the ceiling and it moves around.
G: I’ve got to tell you something. Two days ago—I kid you not—I saw, John, my very first shadow person.
G: I’ve seen a shadow dog before. And I’ve seen these funny looking animals running across the road. Last night was the first time I saw a shadow person. It was on a wall going into this area where I’m staying right now. And yeaaumm (or “YEAAUMM”) I looked around to make sure there was nobody — no reflection, nothing. It was a person with a hat. And he looked like he was smoking, which he shouldn’t be doing. And — and there he was. And I’m telling you. I could not find where the person might have been to cast that shadow and it scared the heck out of me because I couldn’t find him. And it was just there. It wasn’t moving. It was just like — I even thought maybe it was painted on the wall. It wasn’t.
H: Yeah well —
H: Well you know Matt? He called about ‘Rods.’
H: When you had Jose Escamilla on?
H: I’m a friend of his.
G: Boy, you listen to the show a lot.
H: Yeah. Well yeah and —
G: And but when school starts, back to the books.
G: I want to know why you — you see these shadow people?
H: I don’t know. His mom —
G: I wonder what’s going on.
H: You know his mom —
G: No, I don’t know his mom.
H: You don’t know his mom but she says they’re devils. Like demons.
G: I’m not sure. You know, I know there are (“AA”) demonic spirits and creatures but I’m not sure shadow people are. I happen to think that the theory that they might be from another dimension or there’s some kind of a time warp that’s — has kind of shifted. I think that they would probably be more of that than anything evil. I (or “I”) — because I mean it never — like you said. It doesn’t attack you, does it?
H: Oh it just — it’s like it’s attached to the ceiling and it moves around.
G: Now how does it go away? And where does it go once it’s gone?
H: Well I have a vent in my room, right?
G: He g(oes) — he goes in the vent?
H: Yeah. It’s like a — like smoke.
G: And he’s gone.
H: Turns into smoke and goes in the vent and disappears.
G: He comes by. Try talking to it next time. See what it does.
H: (small laugh) I don’t . . .
G: See if it reacts to you. Just say, “Move over there. Move over there.” See — see what it does. I’d like to find out.
G: Alright, John. You take care.
H: Okay, bye.
G: Bye. Pretty soon it’ll be school time. Let’s go to our first time caller line . . .
Q: (speaking into tape recorder) Well I didn’t get to say very much. So I guess what I’ll do is put a link here to my Email that I sent to Uri recently because I think it’s pretty clear: Email To Uri Geller. However, I guess I should note that there was a strange change of typing in the Email. When I usually talk about Mighael, I refer to Him as a Channel and an Amassing of Spirits; and in this case I was going to say spirits and aliens. However, when I reread the Email, it says. (I was distracted by “Coast to Coast AM” in the background.) Let’s see what the bumper music is at the end of the hour — oh they didn’t have any. Anyway, it’s so important to “Listen to the music” as one might say. Anyway, the Email said, “. . . the amassing of spirits of aliens” and that’s not what I remember typing. That happened once before. When I published the book Testament, there was one place where I had meant to say “angel” and it had turned into “alien.” I’m not quite sure why or how even though it made sense still but it’s not what I thought I had said. Anyway, in that Email to Uri, at one point I do mention music or I refer to a song lyric that I’d been hearing: “It’s only the beginning.” Well this song was performed by Chicago, it turns out; while actually in the book the lyric is repeated twice. And that isn’t the case with the song I’ve been hearing so I don’t know exactly what that means. Perhaps, in a song with the lyric twice, that might apply to Mr. Puharich and Mr. Geller. I really can’t say for sure. So what should I say? I wonder if George realizes that the movie about Uri was directed by Ken Russell. I wonder just how friendly he is with Uri. Now I guess I should make it clear as I did in the letter. The Entity characterized by different letters in the book, including ‘M,’ but also other ones such as ‘S,’ does not always apparently give good advice. However, on page 14, M had told the author: “We propose to work with you in some essential respects with the relation of contradiction and contrariety.” And, as I said in the letter—just as the author concluded (P. 188): “We always have to rely on our brains and common sense.”—this important insight could not have been reached without there being both good and bad advice from the spirits. A source for evil in the world has always been individuals blindly following orders with the mistaken belief that circumstances may demand that one’s self is not responsible for his or her own actions.
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Q: And, one again, listening to the radio news reminds me just how totally ridiculous it has become. But ‘Let’s keep the people on edge about their mortality so they won’t question politicians and billionaires,” who are finding ways to profit thinking that their immediate fortune is more important than the condition of their eternal soul. Tonight, the newscaster actually said that a woman back east somewhere had fallen off a cliff while bicycling and fell several hundred feet and had to be taken to the hospital. I mean of all the things happening in the world, this is considered the most relevant information to be squeezed into five minutes worth of profundity.
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Q: So I’m still taping. The second hour of tonight’s show is about to begin and I want to see what the bumper music is. I must say it’s far from compelling as it once was. Not that Art has such good taste yet there was usually some emotional connection (“WHICH” or “WITCH”) with each of the songs. Now there’s probably a list of songs provided by Clear Channel that are the ones that promoters have paid them money to play. So let’s hear what it is as soon as all those commercials that keep increasing play on.
K: KFI AM 640, more stimulating talk radio. (an unnecessary Southern California weather report overwhelms the beginning of the song)
. . . only time . . .
(“Only Time” performed by Enya)
R: This is “Coast to Coast AM” with George Noory.
G: If you haven’t had an opportunity to get up to the coasttocoastam website . . .
Q: Well what an eloquent song. I don’t mean to sound like Salieri in “Amadeus,” but really you all really should stop waiting for someone else to prove their love to God or maybe planning on doing it yourself in some future time or life while the world is so screwed up as it is now. I mean all the information I provide. I list sources, data, frequently reminding that I am entitled to my own impressions and viewpoints. Now is your chance to prove your love to God by helping us spread the good news, so to speak.
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Q: Well I was starting to go to sleep and then I remembered something else sweet that Boo did. I was on the freeway or — I can’t remember if it was the freeway or Ventura Boulevard. And there was this sticker. It was a sad face with one of those crossed out anti- symbols around it.
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D: Good afternoon. Doctor’s office.
Q: Oh hi. This is Mark Russell and I was calling because I received an insurance statement but it seemed like there had been a mistake made on the claim information.
D: Please hold.
Q: Sure. (long pause)
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O: Hello, how can I help you?
Q:Oh hi. This is Mark Russell.
Q: And there seems to be an error made on my dental — I got — received something from Delta Dental.
Q: And the description of service was wrong.
O: The description of service was wrong? (“RIGH”)
Q: Well I think a mistake was made because the date was right: the date of service 7/21/03 when I had my cleaning.
Q: Now I had — I didn’t have the usual lady but there was a — a substitute hygienist who helped me. Now the bill I got — it had “cleaning — adult,” which was correct. It had “periodic oral evaluation” — I’m not sure what that means because I didn’t see the dentist. And then it also had various charges for “bitewings” and “intraoral” (films).
Q: And no X-rays had been taken that day either.
O: Let me get your file. Hold one for . . .
( . . . )
O: So you’re saying they did not take the X-rays at all?
Q: That’s right.
O: Because I’m — I’m — I took your file out. I took the X-rays out. I took X-rays from April of 2001, which was the last time before you came in for your cleaning.
O: And — and I see this one there in front of me which is the same date that you came in. And I’m like it could’ve been like some other patient’s teeth but it —
Q: Well it had to be because —
O: No, what — what I’m getting at. (“YEAH”)
O: What I’m getting at is that it has — is — is this — it’s — these are your teeth because it has the fillings, the crowns —
Q: I would remember if I had had X-rays taken.
Q: No one took X-rays. I mean that’s something I — I don’t even like taking X-rays. That’s why I didn’t — I asked that they not be done the previous time I had come in because I — because once I had an infection which doesn’t — didn’t even show up on the X-rays so I don’t even — I don’t — I mean I think they’re ridiculous to begin with.
Q: I mean I don’t want — I mean I like as little contamination as possible, personally.
Q: And I don’t go to the airport very — I mean I don’t — I’m not one who flies in airplanes so —
O: Righ(t) I mean I don’t know — I don’t know what — I don’t know what to say.
Q: Okay, well —
O: What — what is your question? I mean I thought they weren’t taken, okay?
Q: They weren’t — they weren’t taken. And I didn’t see the dentist. It said — there was also a bill for “periodic oral evaluation” . . . what?
O: You must have seen a doctor.
Q: No, I didn’t see a doctor.
O: What was her name?
Q: The hygienist?
Q: I don’t remember her name. She said — she said she’d been temping for the dentist for many years. I said, “Oh — ” Anyway, she said that — anyway. I didn’t — I don’t remember — recall her name. She was a very sweet lady. (pause)
O: Yeah, it was Georgette. She’s a hygienist.
Q: Yeah. That sounds like it. (“YEAH”)
O: Yeah. So you got — you got the explanation of benefits from the insurance company?
Q: Right. Right.
O: Yeah, I mean all I can do is I mean basically just tell — write down what you told me.
O: And refund the insurance company. Unfortunately, now that you mention what you told me about the X-rays — (“UM-HUH”) by — there’s a lot of new laws that are coming out.
O: We are not able to see the patient if we do not have recent X-rays anymore. We’ve been getting a lot of . . .
Q: Well I was prepared — I was prepared to have them taken that day.
O: Oh well no — no — so that you know in the future?
Q: Um-huh? (or “UM-HUH”)
O: We — we just need to have them.
Q: How often do you have to have them?
O: We need to have them once a year.
O: Regardless if you had that experience at the — if it didn’t show — showed on the X-ray. It just — sometimes it just happened
O: It just . . .
Q: I mean I think that once every two years would be acceptable, personally.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I NOW UNDERSTAND THAT MY DENTAL GROUP REQUIRES X-RAYS TO BE TAKEN ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS WHILE DELTA DENTAL REQUIRES THEM TO BE TAKEN ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS.)
O: It — personally, we used to take them every two years.
O: I guess — I mean that’s how (the dentist) used to do it.
Q: But is this because of what Delta Dental requires?
O: No. It’s just overall. We get reviewed by — by — by the different insurance companies: Delta Dental, Aetna, Prudential —
O: — and —
Q: Well that — well that’s interesting. I’ll — I’ll have to — I’ll ask them how — what they recommend because —
Q: — I’d be curious to know.
O: Yeah. So I mean they — they recommend — they — shouldn’t say recommend but they’ll pay for one — for the bitewings that you see there? Like the four bitewings?
Q: Yeah, I know. The other hygienist told me — the other hygienist told me that the — the insurance companies demanded X-rays. But, see, the last time I came in for a cleaning I wasn’t insured.
O: Um-huh. No, they don’t demand. It’s just — it’s a requirement. (“NO”)
Q: Well, as I said — me —
O: It is — demand is just a little bit of a strong word but we — I mean patients really, honestly, they don’t care (“WHA”) what goes on in — when we get audited. But we do. So we have to reenforce —
O: Before, it wasn’t — (“THEY”) they were very lenient and stuff like that.
Q: Um-huh. (or “UM-HUH”)
O: We weren’t — (“WE”) we weren’t get a — penalized for that. Now, this past two/three years —
O: — they’re being very, very . . .
Q: So you have to take them once a year for each patient?
O: We have to. Again, (the dentist) doesn’t — doesn’t agree with that —
O: — but there is nothing he can do.
Q: Okay, well that’s inter(esting) — thank you for letting me know.
O: (small laugh) To let you know and I’ll take care of that for you. I don’t have the payment posted in —
O: — in the computer yet.
O: So I — I’ll — soon as I get it —
O: — I — I’ll — I’ll take care of that for you.
Q: Okay. What’s your name?
O: My name’s is Jose.
Q: Okay, thank you, Jose.
O: Okay. No problem.
Q: Okay, bye-bye.
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Q: Well also, unusually, this claim information I received had the wrong address. One of the numbers was omitted, which is unusual. So I have to call them anyway to correct that error. So I think I’ll also ask about that X-ray requirement because I want to know. It doesn’t seem reasonable to me. And what else should I say? Oh — I forgot. This week I passed another 666 license plate yesterday. I wrote it down quickly. I think it was 2DDK666. As I was driving home, that was — I didn’t go to the gym that morning because I had called George the previous night. So I went after work and on the way home on — (end of tape side)
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I ALSO SAW A 666 LICENSE PLATE THIS MORNING, AUGUST 17TH, IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE 99 CENTS STORE: 4MXZ666.)
[2021 UPDATE: SOME OF THE '666' INSTANCES WERE WARNINGS. I LATER REALIZED THAT A 99 CENTS STORE EMPLOYEE MUST HAVE OWNED THE CAR BECAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS IN THE LOT. IT BECAME APPARENT THAT THERE WERE PRODUCTS ON SALE THAT WERE UNHEALTHY, SUCH AS CUT SALAD LEAFS IN PLASTIC BAGS AT THE EXPIRATION DATE. ONCE I PURCHASED SOME HAND SANITIZING LOTION AND REALIZED THAT IT WAS A STRONG INSECTICIDE REPACKAGED TO SELL IN THIS WAY. ONCE WHEN SOME OF THE TENANTS IN MY APARTMENT COMPLEX WERE HAVING A COCKROACH INFESTATION, I MENTIONED TO THE MANAGER THAT MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR I WOULD SEE ONE (AND ALWAYS WOULD QUICKLY KILL IT). DURING 20+ YEARS, THEY'VE SEEMED TO COME UP OCCASIONALLY IN THE KITCHEN OR BATHROOM (ALL SORTS INCLUDING A MADAGASCAR HISSING COCKROACH INCIDENT). WHEN I CAME HOME FROM WORK THE NEXT DAY THERE WAS A NOTE THAT MY APARTMENT WAS GOING TO BE SPRAYED WITH INSECTICIDE WITH A WARNING ABOUT FUMES. THIS HAPPENED BEFORE I COULD CANCEL THE APPOINTMENT. IT WAS UNNEEDED AND TERRIBLY INCONVENIENT AS WINDOWS HAD TO BE LEFT OPEN, ETC. FOR DAYS. IT WAS THE SAME ODOR WITH THE HAND LOTION. SEEING '666' REPEATEDLY LED TO THE DISCOVERY THAT BY MY ASSIGNING MEANINGS TO VARIOUS THREE NUMBER SEQUENCES ON VEHICLE LICENSE PLATES, MY UNSEEN OMNIPRESENT COLLABORATOR COULD HELP ME WRITE AND REWRITE BLOG ARTICLES. ON A DAILY BASIS I RECEIVED ADVICE SUCH AS 'REMOVE SOMETHING,' 'ADD SOMETHING,' 'NEEDS EDITING,' 'ARTICLE NEAR COMPLETION' AND 'ARTICLE COMPLETED.' THERE WERE ONLY A FEW INSTANCES DURING THE COURSE OF MANY YEARS WHEN SEEING A NUMBER CODE WAS NOT SIGNIFICANT AND CONFLICTED WITH SUBCONSCIOUS ORIENTATIONS; ON THOSE RARE OCCASIONS, I WOULD FEEL A TAP ON THE LEG MEANING 'NO.' (A TAP ON THE OTHER LEG INDICATES 'YES.') IT IS ALWAYS FRIGHTFUL TO RECEIVE THE 'NO' WARNING WHILE DRIVING — I ALTER MY PLANNED ROUTE IMMEDIATELY IN CASE A POTENTIAL ACCIDENT IS BEING INDICATED.]