1999 INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST (JOURNAL) — TAPE #608, SIDE #2
Q: Mark Russell Bell
H: Hilly Rose (radio broadcast)
A: “The Holiday Pops: Home For The Holidays” unidentified announcer
K: KOGO taped announcer
S: toy drive spot
L: Chris Leary, host of “Fox Family Countdown” (radio broadcast)
F: “Fox Family Countdown” taped announcement
I: KISS taped announcement
M: Sam Donaldson (television broadcast)
P: President Clinton (television broadcast)
O: Cokie Roberts (television broadcast)
G: George W. Bush (television broadcast)
H: Okay, friends, now get your finger on the tape recorder record button and then I’m going to play this song all the way through. And then get off my back. Come on. (small laugh) I get more Emails and faxes and what-have-you saying, “Please play it all the way through. We love it. We want to hear it.” So that’s what we’re going to do now. So now when I give you a countdown — and then we’re going to do “Y Worry ‘Bout Y2K.” I’m going to give you a three-point countdown. Here we go. Three two one.
Why worry ’bout Y2K, it won’t make a bit of difference anyway They say the world’s gonna stop, buddy that’ll be the day When the chips cache in on New Year’s Day What’s gonna happen, no one knows for sure The only thing for certain is there ain’t no cure Stocks could drop wildly and elevators too We’ll be cavemen again when it all comes unglued The government’s trying to sweep it under the rug but there’s no magic spray for the millennium bug We’ve created a monster, it’s about to break free There’s nothing quite as scary as technology Why worry ’bout Y2K It won’t make a bit of difference anyway Some genius wasn’t thinking, now we’ve all got to pay When the chips go stale on New Year’s Day The Egyptians had a good thing for a while That big pyramid would make any Pharaoh smile They had flying cars and houses, weren’t slaves to gravity Til their chips ran out on 2000 b.c. Chaos won’t be just a theory anymore Computers have been waiting to even up the score Just like the Tower of Babel when communications die So pucker up, bend over and kiss it all goodbye Why worry ’bout Y2K There’s nothing you can do about it anyway You won’t find me on an airplane, I think it’s safe to say We’re going down with our chips on New Year’s Day So why worry ’bout Y2K We could all lose a pound or two anyway I’ll be running for the hills, don’t be standing in my way Such a party in the streets on New Year’s Day Won’t seem like Kansas anymore on New Year’s Day When it all fades to black on New Year’s Day
(song concludes with Geiger counter sound effects)
H: Well that’s it. (laughs) That’s it. Been waiting and waiting and waiting, folks, for the whole thing. Okay, you got it. That — and it wiped out the Y2K report so there we go. If you didn’t get it — you were in your car or whatever and you want to order it, you go to www.danarayband — that’s D — A — N — A — R — A — Y — B — A — N — D. All one word: dan — (or “DAN”) danarayband.com and there’s a phone number. It’s (gives number). So that’s it. Last I’m going to deal with this. We will use it as a theme but I’m not going to play it again. Thank you very much. Cute song. Love it. But not that much. Okay. Meaning I got other things to do. Alright, we’ve got serious stuff to talk about. Really serious stuff to talk about. And I’m going to try and get it done in this portion of the program and then go to open lines in the next portion but if I don’t we’ll slop over — and get as much open lines in as I can. This chemtrail thing is —
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Q: So that was from the October 23rd show, the week before my call to Hilly.
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Q: So I decided to send Isenberg just a simple website referral with the Web address in the message portion. That should be enough.
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Q: So after dinner — it’s almost ten o’clock and I’ve decided to send some Email to Hilly. It just says, “The following is a recent interview transcript so you’ll consider having me as a guest on your show. My phone number is etc. And then I just have “Radio Interview Transcript Tape #604 (Recorded Dec. 4, 1999); Q: Mark Russell Bell, K: Ken Dashow, host of ‘The Edge of Reality’ syndicated weekly radio show.” And I don’t have the commercials and transcriber’s notes or anything like that.
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Q: So it says, “Subject: Guest Interview Sample For Hilly From Last Saturday.”
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Q: I’m changing the subject to “Interview Sample For Hilly From Last Saturday (Potential Guest).”
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Q: I’m sending this at 9:55 p.m. He’ll be on in five minutes and, of course, he doesn’t read Email until tomorrow.”
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Q: So I just put on KOGO and listen to what’s on.
Oh what fun it is to ride in a one horse open sleigh Jingle bells jingle bells jingle all the way Oh what fun it is to ride in a one horse open sleigh
(applause and cheering)
Away in a manger . . .
Q: Some kind of Christmas carol show.
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A: . . . symphony and members of the Crusader Bells as conductor Matthew Garber — I believe might have one more encore. The encore presentation of tonight’s presentation of “The Holiday Pops: Home For The Holidays” performance here at Copley Symphony Hall — you’re going to hear it on Christmas Eve night right here on Newsradio 600 KOGO December 24th from 8 until 10 p.m. and we hope you tell all your friends and family and get a chance to hear the entire performance again that evening on Christmas Eve. You’ve been listening to a special presentation here on KOGO radio tonight. We want to think all the people who helped make this possible this evening including all the people, of course, here at the symphony who’ve worked with us to make this presentation possible tonight. And we also want to thank our remote engineer John Morgan along with our studio engineers Tom McNeal and Mike Kaye back in the studio. And we also want to thank, of course, all of you for listening tonight to this special performance. Don’t forget an encore presentation of tonight’s “Home For The Holidays” performance coming up December 24th Christmas Eve night between 8 and 10 p.m. only here on KOGO. Also that night, don’t forget, you’re going to hear beginning at six o’clock “The Bethlehem Report,” the original radio drama that is setting a tradition here on San Diego radio — the story of the original Christmas as told by our news team at six o’clock Christmas Eve followed, of course, by the encore presentation of tonight’s “Home For The Holidays” by the San Diego Symphony, the San Diego Master Chorale, the San Diego Children’s Choir and the Crusader Bells of San Diego. Again, thanks for listening and from all of us a merry Christmas from News Radio 600 KOGO.
K: Live twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week. Breaking news as it happens. News Radio 600 KOGO.
S: The holiday sales are in full swing and the seasonal shopping frenzy is upon us . . .
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Q: So it’s Sunday morning and I’m here in bed still. I woke up and for some reason I decided I would feel very sorry for myself. Have you noticed that’s what we humans do once we adjust our thoughts or our beliefs to a small proportion or whatever. We don’t let it sink in right away. We sort of push it aside and then emotionally eventually we deal with it at the right time as opposed to the wrong time which is when it originally takes place. Oh, it’s a very mysterious process so I kind of became very emotional. Maybe I shed a few tears, said things to Mighael like “Is there a heaven for fools?” And I just wondered about other people and what they’ll think about my story. I have made a lot of foolish responses in my situation and I’ve adjusted some of my beliefs about the Father metaphor, for example, and also for Mighael as the lover metaphor. So today I thought I would feel very sorry for myself and yet I do want to make these things clear to everyone who reads my book and, of course, this is a good time to remind everyone that all of my response were in some ways contrived, feeling that I had to articulate my position to share my journey with others as so many (who) have come before me have tried to do such as all of the spiritual pilgrims who’ve come before.
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Q: A bird made a strange whistle. (“RA”) Kind of like the whistle that guys make when they see a pretty blonde. What is this Love of God’s and of Mighael’s? Certainly there’s enough Love for all of us. I look around my room at all my books and clothing and I do feel very Loved. This process of channeling thoughts is a very mysterious one. Of course, we choose which thoughts we act upon and those we don’t and each one is a kind of a test for us and kind of a choice we make in our journey. For me, I must think that perhaps a metaphor for Mighael and I are “the blonde pretty woman.” Isn’t that strange? Anyway, that’s why I think I mixed up which character I was in comparing myself (and my brother) to the characters in “Absolutely Fabulous.” I said the wrong name. I said the blonde one’s name when I really meant the main one but yet I think Mighael looks upon me as the blonde one. So I would make that mistake, wouldn’t I? And, of course, you have blondes in all the Hitchcock movies. Anyway, it’s bizarre and baffling like so many of the mysteries I’ve encountered. And each one you can interpret in different ways so there is a Heaven for all of us fools. And our Lover is Mighael. Our Lover is God. We all have different metaphors to share. So I think we can all have some sympathy for each other as we compare our journeys.
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Q: So, always wanting to give Spirit a chance to speak for Themselves, I think I’ll turn on the radio to a random channel. There are all kind of weird programs going on, on the weekend — ‘countdowns’ and things. (“SO”) Whatever song is on is what you’ll hear and it’ll be for you to interpret. My book is also a plea for less commercialization, obviously. It wouldn’t be suitable at all to get another commercial but that’s usually what you hear. Even turned the Internet into one big friggin’ advertisement. What’s wrong with people?
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Q: Okay. I turned on the radio and moved the dial a little bit with the sound all the way down and now I’ll turn it up. I might have to adjust the dial some more to get an actual channel. Oh there’s a talk show so we’ll change it over to a music channel.
?: (broadcast) . . . you talk about something with pregnant . . . (“MARY” or “MARRY”)
. . . Or else forget about it Or else forget about it Or else forget about it Or else forget about it Or else forget about it Let’s all forget about it
L: Santana, Rob Thomas with their “Smooth.” Unbelievable song. Monster hit. Number one again by your votes in the “Fox Family Countdown.” This week it was a landslide. But as of right now their lead is officially zero. We’ve reset all the numbers. Time to start from scratch. Call the toll-free request line right now. (gives number) Or visit the website foxfamilychannel.com. Vote for your favorite song. And next week weekend we’ll count down the top fifteen again and we’ll see if Santana’s still number one, okay? Same time, same station. You know that, right? Until then, we’ll continue to countdown the twenty-five days of Christmas. Great movies and specials all week long on the Fox Family Channel. “The Christmas Path” a Sunday night world premiere movie. “A Christmas Dream” also a world premiere on Tuesday night. The second annual “Noble Concert for Peace” Thursday night. Sounds like you’re all set for a great week so good luck. We’re almost getting down to the last minute holiday shopping crunch. I’m Chris Leary and thanks for listening. And we will see you right back here in one week again. Ho ho ho. Rudolf, get me out of here. Ho ho ho ho.
F: “Fox Family Countdown.”
I: KISS FM. KK KK KK K — I — S . . .
Q: Well I really do need to research Satan more. The Satan metaphor — that is. And, by the way, when I mentioned those countdowns I didn’t actually think I would hit one of them. I wasn’t even hoping — I was hoping to get 103.5 but — oh well I didn’t even know that Fox their own countdown, after reading that Fox Network book by Alex Ben Block.
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Q: Let’s check to see what Ellen’s watching on TV.
S: President Clinton wants the law to decide.
P: What would be best for the child. And there is a legal process for determining that.
C: And on the other side of the world Russia threatens to annihilate the capital of Chechnya and Yeltsin bluntly reminds the U.S. of his country’s nuclear supply. How will the U.S. resolve these global conflicts?
Q: What a name. Cokie.
O: We’ll ask the National Security Advisor Samuel Berger.
S: And this week doubts grow in the Republican party about candidate Bush’s intellect and experience.
G: And, frankly, I really believe that you need experience before you become President of the United States. That’s why I’m thinking of you as a vice presidential candidate. (laughter)
S: As the Republican rivals head into another debate.
Q: Who chooses these people?
S: Will Bush’s lead shrink?
L: The American people.
Q: No, they don’t. Are you kidding?
S: We’ll talk to candidates Orrin Hatch, Gary Bauer and Alan Keyes.
O: . . . versus U.S. — Yeltsin’s tough talk. Bush’s image problem. All here this Sunday morning.
S: Welcome to our program. Yes indeed we have lots of politics . . .
Q: If I were running things, I would get together and look at who has given the most to people. I would get together in committees — (“OF”) people in our community and look at who’s given the most to society. You’ll probably end up with a religious person or somebody who doesn’t live in a big house necessarily. Definitely not a millionaire but somebody who’s shown a career of giving to others in different ways. And that’s who I would choose. Of course, honesty’s the main thing. And I wouldn’t want someone who would show a penchant for reading the work of speech writers and saying whatever sounds good. I would elect someone who doesn’t always sound so good.
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Q: So I went to what is a most reliable source and that is Brown’s Dictionary of the Bible revised by his son and there is a short designation for Satan. It says “The Hebrew word . . . and the Greek”—looks like—”oarav, oaravas,”—plural; the very telling plural —”have the general signification of adversary, and in this sense they are applied to human beings as in 1 am. xxix. 4; 1 Kings v. 4; xi. 14, 23, 25; probably Ps. Cix. 6.
“But with the article it assumes the nature of a proper name, and signifies Satan, the Devil, who is by way of eminence the adversary of both God and man.” Hmm. Occasionally I look upon Mighael as an adversary because He does test us. He gives us various possibilities and opportunities and it’s up to us to grow and to prove our intelligence by saying “no” to them at times like the time my brother suggested I started taking steroids and, of course, I said “no.” But I definitely felt that it could’ve been Mighael at work too, testing me, challenging me to evolve (by not always taking the easiest solution). So then A Dictionary of Angels including the fallen angels by Gustav Davidson: Satan here is on page 261 and it’s quite a long one. I’ll read it:
Satan—the Hebrew meaning of the word is “adversary.” In numbers 22:22 the angel of the Lord stands against Balaam “for an adversary” (satan). In other Old Testament books (Job, I Chronicles, Psalms, Zechariah) the term likewise designates an office; and the angel investing that office is not apostate or fallen. He becomes such starting in early New Testament times and writings, when he emerges as Satan (capital S), the prince of evil and enemy of God, and is characterized by such titles as “prince of this world” (john 16:11) and “prince of the power of the air” (Ephisians 2:2). When Peter was rebuked by Jesus, he was called Satan (Luke 4:8). Reading back into Genesis, medieval writers like Peter Lombard (c. 1100-1160) saw Satan in the guise of the serpent tempting Eve, although other writers, like the 9th-century Bishop Agobard, held that Satan tempted Eve through the serpent. As Langton says in Satan, A Portrait: “In the later Jewish literature, Satan and the serpent are either identified, or one is made the vehicle of the other.” Originally, Satan (as ha-satan) was a great angel, chief of the seraphim, head of the order of virtues. While seraphim were usually pictured as 6-winged, Satan was shown as 12-winged. Gregory the Great in his Moralia, after listing the 9 hierarchic orders, pays this tribute to Satan: “he wore all of them [all the angels] as a garment, transcending all in glory and knowledge.” Talmud claims that Satan was created on the 6th day of Creation (Bereshith Rabba, 17). Through a misreading of Isaiah 14:12, he has been identified with Lucifer. To Aquinas, Satan, as “the first angel who sinned” is not a seraph but a cherub, the argument being that “cherubim is [sic] derived from knowledge, which is compatible with mortal sin; but seraphim is [sic] derived from the heat of charity, which is incompatible with mortal sin” (Summa 1, 7th art., reply obk. 1). In time, according to Jerome, Gregory of Nyssa, Origen, Ambrosiaster, and others, Satan will be reinstated in his “pristine splendor and original rank.” This is also cabalistic doctrine. In secular lore, Satan figures in many works, notably in Milton’s Paradise Lost, where he is chief of rebels and the “arch Angel ruin’d” (I, 593) and in Paradise Regained, where he is the “Thief of Paradise” (IV, 604). Also in Vondel’s Lucifer; in Dryden’s The State of Innocence; and in Goethe’s Faust (where he is represented by Mephistopheles). Other names for Satan include Mastema, Beliar or Beliel, Duma, Gadreek, Azazel, Sammael, angel of Edom. In rabbinic lore he had a nickname “the ugly one” (Ginzberg, The Legends of the Jews V, 123). In Midrash Tehillim Satan appears to David (when the latter was out hunting) in the form of a gazelle. Compare with the figure of Mutabilitie (as conceived by Spenser in “Two Cantos of Mutabilitie” in The Fairie Queene), the Greek Titaness who challenges Jove’s sovereignty and who, like Satan, aspired to and attempted “the empire of the Heavens height.”
Q: Well Mighael, of course, is always the foremost Angel so here there is a rival for Mighael. I’m reminded of the happy face and the sad face that you always see as the epitome of drama, of the theatre, which is all just metaphorical. But how can I prove that Mighael and Satan are the same one (if the above isn’t enough)? Here below Satan is another one. It says “his name [Satan’s] was formerly Satanail.” As in nail. Oh my gosh. Back in Oklahoma — oh no. It was a metaphor all along. So now I can restore Satan to his true glory. He’s Mighael. He has to be Satan as well as Mighael in order for us to evolve. Well this obviously is a very important tape. I’ll have to add it to the website right away. And this is the first day after Hanukkah. The eighth day of Hanukkah was yesterday. So Mighael and Satan were the same all along. That explains the rule of karma. Karma and reincarnation. These are very primitive estimations of evil and good. What’s best for us doesn’t really always have a name or is one that we choose as very primitive, foolish mortals. I’m reminded that whenever we do something positive we’re like Jesus and whenever we do something negative we’re like the antichrist. And, of course, I’ve done a few misdeeds and naughty thing during my taped recordings over the years. It’s wonderful to know that there is a Satan of Love there for us. I should say a Mighael of Love hiding behind the disguise of Satan. I better understand that “Barbarella” metaphor and that metaphor you see in so many films. Especially twin movies and all the duality business. That’s why we have to be so careful when we deal with this Force because everything positive that we do has an effect and everything negative we do has quite an effect. Has anyone noticed how many negative films Paramount Pictures has been putting out this year? I mean they’re making hundreds of millions of dollars off of serial killers and murderous beheading specter.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE TAPE BECAME TANGLED IN MY TRANSCRIBING MACHINE AT THIS POINT AND ACTUALLY BROKE AS I TRIED TO PULL IT OUT OF THE MACHINE SO THE FINAL BRIEF PORTION WAS LEFT UNTRANSCRIBED. I HAD PLANNED TO LISTEN TO THE TAPE ANOTHER TIME ON MY MICROCASSETTE RECORDER—WHICH SOUNDS CLEARER—TO IDENTIFY SPIRIT MESSAGES.)