INTERVIEW / TELEPHONE INTERVIEW —
TAPE #44, SIDE #1
Q: Mark Russell Bell
R: radio commentator
T: Terry Conner, friend at Southern California HIV/AIDS Hotline
E: Reggie Glover, friend at Southern California HIV/AIDS Hotline
M: Maxine Mc Wethy (the mother in Centrahoma, Oklahoma)
K: Kathy Lynch, friend of Maxine’s
Y: Andy Gevanthor, friend in California
Q: (speaking into tape recorder in car) I thought I would enjoy a brief musical interlude on my way to the Hotline. Oh, where is that other CD I brought? Oh, there it is.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE BEGINNING OF A SOUNDTRACK COMPOSED BY JERRY GOLDSMITH IS HEARD ON THE TAPE HERE. THE SCORE WAS CONDUCTED BY LIONEL NEWMAN AND PERFORMED BY THE NATIONAL PHILHARMONIC ORCHESTRA.)
Q: Yes, I’m playing “Ave Satani” from “The Omen” CD. Isn’t it interesting that the song received an Academy Award nomination and the score won an Oscar? Anyway, if the CIA are listening, I think they’re having a very interesting morning.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE BEGINNING OF THE SECOND SEGMENT OF THE SOUNDTRACK IS HEARD ON TAPE HERE AND THEN I PRESS THE CD EJECT BUTTON.)
Q: I’m happy to say (“THAT”) the second cut on the CD has a far more optimistic title. It is “The New Ambassador.” Oh my goodness, my CD player has one of these things where automatically the CD goes back inside the CD player if you don’t take it out very quick. So I’ve got a feeling we’re going to start hearing “Ave Satani” again and, by the way, when I got this car I had — (“IT”) was basically a cassette deck player — oh, it didn’t come on. That’s weird. That’s very strange. Okay, well that’s a good sign. But when I first got my car it only had a cassette player. (“BUT”) It was stolen. And when they were replacing what had been stolen, the insurance company said I could go ahead and for the same money—because I had an equalizer before—I could get a CD player. So I said, “Sure.” So I got a great Sony CD player. But I think I’m going to put on the radio to see what the stock market report is.
( . . . )
R: And now your money sponsored by West Covina Toyota. Here’s business editor Jim Newman.
R: Well, stocks are steady, posting modest gains after a very choppy start today. (“THE”) Technology issues continue to improve on a rebound from the group’s recent weakness, helping lift the Nasdaq composite index which is heavily weighted with (“THE”) technology issues. Now the Nasdaq composite index is up 14 points. The Dow Jones industrial average index in plus territory about 19 points at 5,051. President Clinton scheduled . . .
Q: Well, so far, so good.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: WHEN I ARRIVED, I SPOKE TO THE PARKING ATTENDANT ABOUT THE 85 WEATHER WE WERE HAVING IN CONTRAST TO THE FREEZING CONDITIONS BACK EAST. I TURNED ON MY TAPE RECORDER TO MAKE A JOURNAL ENTRY WHILE WAITING FOR MY NEXT INCOMING HOTLINE CALL. WHEN ANOTHER LISTENER, TERRY CONNER, SITTING AT THE NEXT BOOTH COMMENTS, I MOVE MY BAG TO COMMENCE AN IMPROMPTU INTERVIEW.)
Q: A lot of news today. “One In Every 200 Californians Infected With HIV.” (“THE REPORT IS A JOKE”) It says as of October, 1995, “HIV infection worldwide: 18,500. AIDS diagnoses: 6,000,000. HIV-related death: (“FOUR”) 4,500,000.”
T: Oh, I’m sure it’s even more dead. (“YEAH”)
Q: It’s funny. These ad transcripts look a lot like the form of the book I’m writing with the capitol letters in the brackets. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg, though.
T: What we know. And what we don’t know is more troublesome.
Q: Yes. Like I heard you telling that one caller about it’s better to know that not to know because then you worry yourself sick.
T: That’s so dumb. I mean people sit there and think every hangnail or every spot on their body or every cold can bring death. And if they took the damn test they’ll know if they’re not infected. Yeah, that’s dumb. (“MMB” “WILLIAM”)
Q: By the way, I couldn’t get a restraining order because my mom hasn’t threatened my life. It has to be when the other person threatens your life.
( . . . )
Q: So, Terry, who was sitting here because there was a Tootsie Roll wrapper on the floor?
T: Alright, let’s get security up here and take a fingerprint off of that.
Q: Was somebody sitting here before I came? Oh, then I know who must have had it. I had one too.
( . . . )
(“SEE THE EAR[TH]” “HEY”)
Q: Terry, this clock right here. (“PLAY” “WAS”) I found it like this. So I put it back.
T: Uh-huh. (“BUT”)
Q: The clock had been pulled off. Is that very (“CO”) common?
T: Well, it is if the velcro is faulty and that’s what we’re dealing with.
Q: But it wasn’t. I mean it was up there one moment and down the next.
T: The velcro isn’t faulty —
Q: It is not faulty.
T: — so I have —
Q: Exactly.
T: — to say that, coupled with the candy wrapper, is fair enough proof (“PROOF”) for me.
Q: So Terry is a witness.
T: I am a witness (“AND”) that you are possessed by an evil demon and I am going to run screaming from the building. After I fill my pockets with candy.
Q: And this is after he mentioned to me that he’d been going to a dentist regularly at a reduced rate.
T: At a reduced rate in — (“HOW”) (phone rings) Oh. Excuse me. The phone is ringing.
Q: Okay.
T: Hold on. Now you’re going to see nothing.
( . . . )
Q: Terry, I’ve had three hang-ups today. (“I THINK”)
T: Yeah, but it’s you. You know, it’s not the system. It’s you.
Q: I know.
T: People are — (“HERE”) they want privacy (“YEAH WE’LL SEE ABOUT”) and since your entity sits there with you, you don’t have the privacy and the confidentiality. (“OKAY I — OOOOO”) And I saw your entity running down the hall making phone calls after hearing —
Q: Well, it could be worse. (“IT COU”) It might be the CIA. (“THE” “YEAH”) I could be saying it’s the CIA.
T: You know what? The CIA isn’t the issue. The real issue is the DIA. The Defense Intelligence Agency. And there’s another group that monitors thoughts but I found the best way to avoid that is to take aluminum foil; (“I BEDROOM” “THE STUFF WAS HANGING”) flip it over so you’re working with the dull side—don’t work (“BY”) with the shiny side—and make it into a little hat. (phone rings)
Q: (laughs)
T: That way they (“HI”) can’t get into your head.
Q: Okay.
( . . . )
(“SORES”)
Q: I’m talking to one of my friends at the Hotline. (“KILLJOY”) Say your name first.
E: Reggie Glover.
Q: And you had a fainting spell recently.
E: Yes. About six weeks ago.
Q: And just tell me a little bit about that.
E: Well, I work in a position that requires the individuals or the incumbents to go to the field and make calls to taxpayers, which is what I had done this particular day. It was rather hot, close to 90, I believe. I’m not sure that had anything to do with it. Nor are the doctors for that matter. But I came back and (phone rings) I had a seizure.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I INDICATED FOR REGGIE TO CONTINUE SPEAKING INTO THE TAPE RECORDER AS I RETURNED TO MY STATION TO ASSIST A CALLER.)
E: Where I was out of commission for approximately 30 or 40 minutes. All of the period of that time span is still a blur to me even six weeks later. I’ve gone through several tests: CAT scans, MRIs, spinal taps — a whole gamut — a battery of tests and, to this day, everything has been determined as normal so the real cause of this — seizure is what they officially called it — has not yet been determined. There is not a history in my family of having seizures, nor am I an epileptic. So, to this point, it’s all a mystery. (“UM-HUH” “UM-HUH” “UM-HUH”)
Q: Okay.
( . . . )
Q: So, real quick, I try not to talk about my book because it’s about the supernatural.
E: Um-huh.
Q: It’s about (“THE”) an Entity. (“FRIEND” “THAT’S MY”) But He only draws upon (“WARNING”) people He likes. So if that was the case it’s kind of a compliment.
E: Um-huh. (“O”) Okay. (small laugh) That’s different (“BO” “THING”) from anything I’ve heard before. (“REALLY”) It sounds interesting. (“STAY”)
Q: Um-huh. (“UM-HUH”)
( . . . )
Q: This is my last interview (“L A”) at the Hotline. I’m not even going to bring my tape recorder because it’s just too much of a temptation. (“UP” “BUT”) I overheard Terry mentioning he used to work for the (“AA”) Secret Service so I have to ask him about this. (“IN PHILADELPHIA”)
T: What would you like to ask me about it?
Q: What branch or — (“WAS”)
T: Well, there is no branch. (“NO GAY”) It’s the United States Secret Service.
Q: Is it like CIA or FBI or —
T: Well, it’s a division of the Treasury Department.
Q: Okay. (“AND NOW”)
T: When I was working, there was counterfeiting and executive protection. (“OF”)
Q: Um-huh.
T: Now they’re into credit card fraud and other things. (“NO”) But yeah. And I worked at —
Q: Did they ever do any telephone tapping? (“NO”)
T: Well, of course. Every federal agency does when they’re — (“WHEN YOU’RE”) anybody who’s chasing (“IN”) a criminal always seeks a court order.
Q: Um-huh. (“AA”) And you were dodging bullets?
T: Well, anybody (“IN THE”) who’s in (“PAPER”) law enforcement has the potential (“THE”) to be shot at and I was working (“STILL”) counterfeiting in Miami (“PRAY FOR”) a while and we got shot at. Yeah. (“OHWITHOUTAMO”)
Q: Wow. (“TYPE OF THE DISEASE” “OH YEAH” “FILMMAKER”) That sounds exciting, though.
T: Well, it was at the time and when you’re a young person, that’s cool. Right now is not the time to be shot at. So I quit.
Q: Okay, thank you. (“NOW RETURN”)
( . . . )
T: Now, come on. Now this is one of the more grotesque things a human can do is to stick something in somebody’s face. There’s a plane with the entire crew. It crashed, killed hundreds of people and the crew walked away. (“SURE DID”)
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: TERRY WAS TELLING ME ABOUT A STORY IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT DAY.)
Q: That’s (“YOU HAD”) another hang-up.
T: There’s some missing. They originally said that there was — one, the fifth apparently that they couldn’t find who might have been killed in there but these were Russians. It was an unauthorized flight. It was overweight. It was unregistered. (small laugh) But I’m thinking, “In Africa?” I’m shocked. (“OH YEAH”) Shocked. (“UM-HUH”) (small laugh) (“MM-MM”)
Q: And how many people died?
T: Well, again, there’s stories of 280 from one source, 350 from another and here’s a doctor who says over 600 have been confirmed dead so, again —
E: An open-air market place.
T: Yeah, it was just at the end of the runway and the plane couldn’t get up and so it came down — apparently soft enough so that the people lived but it skidded enough so that it just trashed that market. I’m thinking, “What the hell are they putting a market at the end of a runway for?” (“UM-HUH”)
E: Now this is true. (“THEY BLAME IT”)
T: There’s plenty of space in Africa. Plenty of space. (“GOOD I’LL DO”)
Q: And that’s from the Times’ wire services.
E: That’s Zaire?
T: Yeah. Kinshasa, which is the capital of Zaire. ‘The rumble in the jungle’ happened (“AA”) there back in (“I” “ODIN AA”) ’73. (“YEAH” “AA WE”) Okay. Sorry. (“HITCHCOCK”)
( . . . )
(“GG”)
Q: So how many hang-ups have you had? I’ve had three.
T: Two in a row and Reggie just had one so there were —
E: I had two now.
T: — two. (“OKAY SO”)
Q: I hope it isn’t —
T: Don’t be (“NO”) ascribing this to anything other than mean people. It is not your entity, your inner spirit, your inner child or anything else.
E: Oh, I see you talk to everyone about this.
T: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. This is a man with absolutely no shame who isn’t afraid to tell you that his entity — as a matter of fact we found a (“A”) suspicious Tootsie Roll wrapper there.
Q: What can I say? (“E”)
T: Say you’re sorry. (“NICE”)
Q: I have to tell you about the anagram in my name some time.
T: ‘Eat shit and die’? Is that an anagram of your name? (laughs)
Q: No. (“WOULD IT”)
T: What would it be?
Q: Well, it’s worse than you think.
T: Mark Russell?
Q: Well, my pseudonym is Mark Russell Bell. So Mabus (“OH”) is an anagram in my name. (“OKAY”)
T: Yeah, I saw the B there and I said, “What is the B?” Because all I know you as is Mark Russell.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: TERRY WAS REFERRING TO MY LAND’S END BAG. I REPLACED THE ONE I HAD TAKEN TO OKLAHOMA LATE LAST YEAR.)
Q: MRB. Mark Russell Bell. That’s my writing pseudonym.
T: I see.
( . . . )
Q: (speaking into tape recorder in car) Well, the stock market closed up today but I think you get the point. I obviously am not going to be reporting on the stock market every day.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: AT THE TIME, MY SPECULATION WAS THAT THE ENTITY WAS SAVING ME FROM CATASTROPHE. AND HE WAS — YET IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN WHAT I WAS INITIALLY EXPECTING. THE SIMPLE TRUTH IS THAT PROFITING FROM THE STOCK MARKET IS EVIL. GREED MOTIVATES EXECUTIVES TO BREAK THEIR SACRED BOND WITH CO-WORKERS BY DOWNSIZING AND LAYING OFF EMPLOYEES TO ATTRACT STOCK TRADERS, WHO THEMSELVES ARE MOTIVATED BY GREED IN THIS VICIOUS CYCLE THAT IS REPEATED IN ENDLESS VARIATIONS THROUGH EVERY FACET OF ENTERPRISE IN OUR CONTEMPORARY SOCIETY. HOW COULD IT BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SIN TO CONDUCT BUSINESS CONCERNED ONLY WITH WHAT IS TO ONE’S PERSONAL ADVANTAGE WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE RAMIFICATIONS OF HOW THE INVESTMENT IS AFFECTING OTHERS?)
Q: It’s making me very nervous how much transcribing I have to do so I really have to try to edit my thoughts better because I’m so far behind. My horoscope did say, however, “Music” today so I stopped by Rockaway and listen to a selection from A Testimonial Dinner: The Songs of XTC.
Dear God, I hope You got the letter and I pray You can make it better down here . . .
Q: I love XTC. This is a CD that features the music of XTC performed by all these famous artists. It’s like, “Wow.” I’m driving. I also got the soundtrack for “Seven,” The Best of Gordon Lightfoot and Tangerine Dream: The Dream Mixes. I love Tangerine Dream. It’s so weird living a book. (“KKK”) You’re always thinking of what’s best for the book. It’s like your life becomes a movie. It’s just very strange. I keep thinking about reality and other people and what they think about me. (“X”) What is reality? What is reality?
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE NEXT RECORDED CONVERSATION IS WITH MAXINE.)
M: Hello?
Q: Oh hi, Maxine.
M: Hi, Mark. How are you getting along?
Q: Very good.
M: Good. (“YET”) Anything new develop? (“WELL”)
Q: Well, no, today was one of my volunteer days at the Hotline. And I just went to the supermarket and the record store. And the supermarket clerk who puts the groceries in the bag (“CALL”) is missing his wallet.
M: (gasps) Oh no.
Q: Oh yes.
M: Oh no.
Q: So I was trying to get Mighael to give it back my saying to the clerk, “Well, when you get home I think it’s going to be in your dresser drawer” — trying to give Mighael the hint. I don’t know if it worked or not. (“TTT”)
M: Oh my God.
Q: Yeah. (“IT’S LIKE”) So, anyway, anything new with you?
M: No. I just wondered if there’s anything new with you. (small laugh)
Q: I (“BLESS”) spoke to Twyla —
M: Did she tell you about him getting the rent money?
Q: Yeah. ([MAXINE] “OHHHHH” “OF”) And, of course, He got your SocialSecurity check or money.
M: My SSI check in the (“IS IN”) 1st of December.
Q: Well, He hasn’t taken any money from me. But, of course, working on the book is quite expensive because I don’t have an income. I mean my mom probably (“WOULD”) would be upset if she knew that I bought four CDS today but, obviously, I’m not worried.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: I understand that Brenda’s now looking at the manuscript so (“I[T]”) when she’s done are you going — I guess Twyla’s (“NOT”) going to call me and give me any typos or any changes.
M: Probably.
Q: Okay, fine. (“NO”) And what did (“DO”) you think of it? (“OF” “WHEN HE”)
M: Oh, it’s alright, I guess.
Q: That’s just from the first day.
M: I haven’t looked at it much. You know me. I’ve got to be busy. I can’t sit that long.
Q: Yeah. So everything’s going well. Of course, (“IT’S”) it’s over a thousand pages, single-spaced. (“UM”) I probably have ten tapes I haven’t transcribed yet because things keep happening so I just keep recording. (“OO”) And I don’t know if anyone else can transcribe them for me or not. (“PROBABLY”) Probably not because they won’t get the sounds. Well, maybe they could. (“BUT”) They won’t get any spirit sounds. They won’t be able to differentiate the spirit voices from mine and what-have-you. (“UM-HUH”) It took me a long time.
M: Yeah. (“I[T]”)
Q: So I’m getting better at it.
M: Well, he give me $5 back Sunday. That’s about all I’ve got back. But I had about $17 in my purse and he got it. It was under Bill’s pillow back there. And I got to looking for some pictures in this locked box. And Twyla looked in there. She said, “Is this purse supposed to be in there?” I said, “No, it was under Bill’s pillow.” I looked in it and all my green was gone. And he threw a whole bunch of pennies in here the other day. A friend of ine’s here right now. She was here when it happened.
Q: Oh really? What’s your friend’s name?
M: Kathy Lynch. I’ll let you talk to her a minute.
Q: Okay.
K: Mark what? Hello, Mark, how are you?
Q: Oh, hi. One of my friends is named Sharon Lynch. Are you familiar with the director David Lynch?
K: Oh, you aren’t — where are you? In California?
Q: Yeah.
K: Well, there’s a whole bunch of them out there. (“ARE THEY”)
Q: Your relatives? (“THE”)
K: They’re probably my husband’s relatives.
Q: Oh, I see.
K: He’s got a bunch of people out there in California — a bunch of cousins, a son and a brother.
Q: Right. It’s so interesting tracing genealogy and ancestry. I mean people named Lynch all have to be connected somewhere on the same family tree so it’s just interesting to think about.
K: Right. Very interesting. (“WELL”)
Q: So you saw some phenomena? Some pennies?
K: I’ve seen several things since I’ve been out here.
Q: Have you heard Mighael speak?
K: Yes, I’ve heard him speak. (“KEN”)
Q: What did He say?
K: Maxine was in here cooking Christmas dinner. I guess that was Christmas Eve. All the grandkids were here and it was real noisy and Maxine was kind of talking to herself about something. I think she was fixing to put the turkey in the oven. All of a sudden he just spoke up and said, “WELL I KNOW THAT.”
Q: He knows everything. (“HUH”)
K: Then, Saturday, when I was over here he was in a whistling mood and you could hear him whistling.
Q: So He’s in a good mood these days.
K: He was really in a good mood Sunday. He felt extremely good Sunday.
Q: Oh, that’s good.
K: Of course, that was the day he took Maxine’s money. And, through the wall in the living room where the pictures are, He threw pennies from one end of that wall to the other clear to in here in the kitchen. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was probably $2 or $3 worth of pennies. He just scattered them all over that wall.
Q: Let me speak to Him now — no, I’m just kidding.
K: (laughs) Well, I wish I could do that. (“HUH”)
Q: Exactly.
K: One of the things that I’ve seen that has been the most astonishing is Maxine and I were here one day and this hanging ivy basket over there in the corner started swinging.
Q: Um-huh. Oh. (“OKAY”)
K: And it was just swinging enough that you could just — if you looked at it really hard —
Q: It’s the usual parlor tricks.
K: — you could tell that it was moving. And then it just got moving faster and faster and faster until it was swinging for all that it could to stay on the hook.
Q: Okay. Well, thank you. (“NOW P[UT]”) Put Maxine back on.
K: Alright. Thank you.
M: Yeah?
Q: So, Maxine, you have swinging plants. Meanwhile, here I am in L.A. and I have to deal with the realization that I’m not only a Antichrist but the only Antichrist.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: Can you believe that?
M: Uh-huh.
Q: I mean but I’m a nice Antichrist. I mean just because I’m the Antichrist doesn’t mean I’m bad.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: You know it’s just basically E=MC2. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: And there were some things about Jesus that weren’t good. It’s a long story.
M: Yeah.
Q: (small laugh) But, anyway, everything is going according to schedule I guess. No, definitely. Definitely. I’m going to make Mighael mad at me again.
M: Are you?
Q: Well, I mean I make mistakes.
M: Um-huh.
Q: Because I always (“YOU KNOW”) — it’s hard to explain.
M: Yeah.
Q: But everything is going perfectly according to schedule. Notice I say perfectly.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: So the book will be done when it’s meant to be done.
M: Did you get the family tree letter?
Q: No, not yet. (“GAIL”)
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: WHEN I HEARD THIS SPIRIT MESSAGE I REMEMBERED ONE OF THE AGENCY CLIENTS WHEN I WAS A TALENT AGENT: GAIL FISHER.)
Q: That was (“B”) a very bad call that I had with her.
M: Oh really?
Q: We just didn’t see eye to eye.
M: Ohhhhhh.
Q: So go ahead and send me what you have.
M: Alright.
Q: I don’t think she’s going (“HE”) to be sending anything else.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: Unless she comes to her senses. (“NO”)
M: Well, I’ll say. What happened? (“SHE”)
Q: She said, “Get thee behind me, Satan.” That’s about all I can remember. (laughs)
M: My God. (“A”) That’s not like her.
Q: What? I know. I said it’s just information. I mean — anyway. (“YOU MIGHT”) If you talk to her, just don’t even mention me. Just ask her to send you the information. (“AND”) You can even lie and tell her that you won’t give it to me but then go ahead and give it to me.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: Okay?
M: Yeah.
Q: So, anyway, everything’s going very well. (“WELL”) I’m very happy.
M: Uh-huh. (“MI”)
Q: I think Mighael’s very happy too.
M: Yeah.
Q: I don’t want to tell you any of the more sensational aspects. You’ll have to read them in the book because you probably wouldn’t believe them anyway. And I don’t even know on what level of reality they occurred in.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: So, (“OOO”) anyway, it’s really puzzling. I mean you’d think (“WHAT”) He would at least tell me what He has planned. You know?
M: Yeah.
Q: As His co-author. (“YOU KNOW HE”) You think that He would tell me what’s going to happen. The only thing I would say today is for everyone not to go to the dentist for a while.
M: Oh, really?
Q: Yeah.
M: (small laugh)
Q: Apparently, there is a possibility (“THAT”) HIV can be transmitted through dental offices. That’s a scary thought.
M: Yes, it is.
Q: Because they have the power to give (“YOU KNOW”) illness. (“SSS”) As you know with Bill.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: People can get illnesses if They think that’s best for them in their existence plan, so to speak. (“YOU KNOW”) If that’s what’s going to make them a better person and bring them to God in the right frame of mind, people are going to get illnesses. And HIV is definitely one of them. I mean can you imagine what’s happening in the world when you consider Hong Kong and Bombay? I mean the world is going to be decimated by AIDS. It’s just a matter of when. And how — (“AND”) to what extent it is going to be in the United States. (“THAT”)
M: That’s become an epidemic, anyway.
Q: Right. But it’s going to get much worse I have a feeling.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: I mean people are still getting it in blood transfusions. Middle America, wake up. (“PPP”) This is your wake-up call.
M: Uh-huh. Did you call this evening? (“NA”)
Q: No.
M: Well, somebody did. Bill didn’t get to the phone.
Q: You had a hang-up?
M: Well, he didn’t get to it before they hung up.
Q: You haven’t heard anything from any of the LMNO people, have you?
M: No, I haven’t.
Q: That’s good. (“AA”)
M: I don’t even call them anymore. (“WELL”)
Q: There’s no reason to.
M: Uh-uh.
Q: And you haven’t had any calls from reporters or anything?
M: No.
Q: Well, everything’s fine then.
M: That’s what I wanted to know.
Q: I’m busy working.
M: Alright.
Q: Okay, bye.
M: Get to work.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE NEXT RECORDED CONVERSATION IS WITH ANDY GEVANTHOR.)
Q: Oh hi, Andy?
Y: Hi, Mark. This is the situation. Two things about the apartments here. Well, number one, they are fixing them all up. There are about fifty that are vacant right now but nobody’s supposed to know. And they are putting in new carpeting. (“HHH”) They are painting them and they’re putting in new kitchen appliances.
Q: Wow.
Y: Then, they’re going to rent them. Now, I told Michael about this and Michael thought they’d be great for your mother to live here. And I said, “Well, I think we can attempt to get one apartment.” He said, “Well, talk to Mark about it and see if he wants it or if he thinks our mother should have it if we could get one.” What do you think about that?
Q: I’ve always wanted to live in Santa Monica. A psychic once said I would live in Santa Monica. But I haven’t acted on it because of theprophecies regarding Mabus and the Son of Man and all that said that I would be discovered across from a religious center. But I guess I’ve already been discovered so I guess I can move without any problem.
Y: What do you think about your mother? Do you think she’s had a hard life and she should live in a place like this?
Q: I don’t know. You’ll have to ask her.
Y: Yeah, but since (“WE”) you and I talked about it first, it would have to be if you wanted her to —
Q: Well, I wouldn’t want to live in the same building that she lives in.
Y: I don’t think we can get two apartments. I think if we can get anything we can maybe get one.
Q: How much does it go for a month?
Y: The one I’m thinking of is $767 a month.
Q: I think (“BO[TH]”) both my mom and I could afford that.
Y: Right. (“BU[T]”) What we have to do is write a letter. But the question is if it’s going to be for your mother, then it should be in her name. And if it’s going to be for you it should be in your name.
Q: Okay, well why don’t you call her and ask her and then let me know? I’m interested.
Y: Well, do you want her to have first dibs on it?
Q: Yes.
Y: Would you please ask her then if she wants to live here?
Q: Okay.
Y: The best way to go about this is to use Doris’s name. And there is one apartment that I looked at myself. I was thinking of changing my apartment. It is now $675 but all the rents are going up 15% per vacant apartment. So it would be $761. It’s on the fifteenth floor. It’s got a south view like Doris’s.
Q: I’d love a view of the ocean.
Y: It’s got a big view of the ocean.
Q: I want it.
Y: Yeah, but what about your mother?
Q: Well, I’ll call her and ask her.
Y: Because Michael just thought that she’d had a really hard life. This would be like a nice (“YEAH”) thing for her.
Q: If she wants it she can have it.
Y: Well, Mark, can you hold one second?
Q: Sure.
Y: If I’m gone on this other call for more than ten seconds I’ll call you right back. It’s my doctor and I don’t have your number with me.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE BEGINNING OF A SOUNDTRACK COMPOSED BY JERRY GOLDSMITH IS HEARD ON THE TAPE HERE. THE SCORE WAS CONDUCTED BY LIONEL NEWMAN AND PERFORMED BY THE NATIONAL PHILHARMONIC ORCHESTRA.)
Q: Yes, I’m playing “Ave Satani” from “The Omen” CD. Isn’t it interesting that the song received an Academy Award nomination and the score won an Oscar? Anyway, if the CIA are listening, I think they’re having a very interesting morning.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE BEGINNING OF THE SECOND SEGMENT OF THE SOUNDTRACK IS HEARD ON TAPE HERE AND THEN I PRESS THE CD EJECT BUTTON.)
Q: I’m happy to say (“THAT”) the second cut on the CD has a far more optimistic title. It is “The New Ambassador.” Oh my goodness, my CD player has one of these things where automatically the CD goes back inside the CD player if you don’t take it out very quick. So I’ve got a feeling we’re going to start hearing “Ave Satani” again and, by the way, when I got this car I had — (“IT”) was basically a cassette deck player — oh, it didn’t come on. That’s weird. That’s very strange. Okay, well that’s a good sign. But when I first got my car it only had a cassette player. (“BUT”) It was stolen. And when they were replacing what had been stolen, the insurance company said I could go ahead and for the same money—because I had an equalizer before—I could get a CD player. So I said, “Sure.” So I got a great Sony CD player. But I think I’m going to put on the radio to see what the stock market report is.
( . . . )
R: And now your money sponsored by West Covina Toyota. Here’s business editor Jim Newman.
R: Well, stocks are steady, posting modest gains after a very choppy start today. (“THE”) Technology issues continue to improve on a rebound from the group’s recent weakness, helping lift the Nasdaq composite index which is heavily weighted with (“THE”) technology issues. Now the Nasdaq composite index is up 14 points. The Dow Jones industrial average index in plus territory about 19 points at 5,051. President Clinton scheduled . . .
Q: Well, so far, so good.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: WHEN I ARRIVED, I SPOKE TO THE PARKING ATTENDANT ABOUT THE 85 WEATHER WE WERE HAVING IN CONTRAST TO THE FREEZING CONDITIONS BACK EAST. I TURNED ON MY TAPE RECORDER TO MAKE A JOURNAL ENTRY WHILE WAITING FOR MY NEXT INCOMING HOTLINE CALL. WHEN ANOTHER LISTENER, TERRY CONNER, SITTING AT THE NEXT BOOTH COMMENTS, I MOVE MY BAG TO COMMENCE AN IMPROMPTU INTERVIEW.)
Q: A lot of news today. “One In Every 200 Californians Infected With HIV.” (“THE REPORT IS A JOKE”) It says as of October, 1995, “HIV infection worldwide: 18,500. AIDS diagnoses: 6,000,000. HIV-related death: (“FOUR”) 4,500,000.”
T: Oh, I’m sure it’s even more dead. (“YEAH”)
Q: It’s funny. These ad transcripts look a lot like the form of the book I’m writing with the capitol letters in the brackets. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg, though.
T: What we know. And what we don’t know is more troublesome.
Q: Yes. Like I heard you telling that one caller about it’s better to know that not to know because then you worry yourself sick.
T: That’s so dumb. I mean people sit there and think every hangnail or every spot on their body or every cold can bring death. And if they took the damn test they’ll know if they’re not infected. Yeah, that’s dumb. (“MMB” “WILLIAM”)
Q: By the way, I couldn’t get a restraining order because my mom hasn’t threatened my life. It has to be when the other person threatens your life.
( . . . )
Q: So, Terry, who was sitting here because there was a Tootsie Roll wrapper on the floor?
T: Alright, let’s get security up here and take a fingerprint off of that.
Q: Was somebody sitting here before I came? Oh, then I know who must have had it. I had one too.
( . . . )
(“SEE THE EAR[TH]” “HEY”)
Q: Terry, this clock right here. (“PLAY” “WAS”) I found it like this. So I put it back.
T: Uh-huh. (“BUT”)
Q: The clock had been pulled off. Is that very (“CO”) common?
T: Well, it is if the velcro is faulty and that’s what we’re dealing with.
Q: But it wasn’t. I mean it was up there one moment and down the next.
T: The velcro isn’t faulty —
Q: It is not faulty.
T: — so I have —
Q: Exactly.
T: — to say that, coupled with the candy wrapper, is fair enough proof (“PROOF”) for me.
Q: So Terry is a witness.
T: I am a witness (“AND”) that you are possessed by an evil demon and I am going to run screaming from the building. After I fill my pockets with candy.
Q: And this is after he mentioned to me that he’d been going to a dentist regularly at a reduced rate.
T: At a reduced rate in — (“HOW”) (phone rings) Oh. Excuse me. The phone is ringing.
Q: Okay.
T: Hold on. Now you’re going to see nothing.
( . . . )
Q: Terry, I’ve had three hang-ups today. (“I THINK”)
T: Yeah, but it’s you. You know, it’s not the system. It’s you.
Q: I know.
T: People are — (“HERE”) they want privacy (“YEAH WE’LL SEE ABOUT”) and since your entity sits there with you, you don’t have the privacy and the confidentiality. (“OKAY I — OOOOO”) And I saw your entity running down the hall making phone calls after hearing —
Q: Well, it could be worse. (“IT COU”) It might be the CIA. (“THE” “YEAH”) I could be saying it’s the CIA.
T: You know what? The CIA isn’t the issue. The real issue is the DIA. The Defense Intelligence Agency. And there’s another group that monitors thoughts but I found the best way to avoid that is to take aluminum foil; (“I BEDROOM” “THE STUFF WAS HANGING”) flip it over so you’re working with the dull side—don’t work (“BY”) with the shiny side—and make it into a little hat. (phone rings)
Q: (laughs)
T: That way they (“HI”) can’t get into your head.
Q: Okay.
( . . . )
(“SORES”)
Q: I’m talking to one of my friends at the Hotline. (“KILLJOY”) Say your name first.
E: Reggie Glover.
Q: And you had a fainting spell recently.
E: Yes. About six weeks ago.
Q: And just tell me a little bit about that.
E: Well, I work in a position that requires the individuals or the incumbents to go to the field and make calls to taxpayers, which is what I had done this particular day. It was rather hot, close to 90, I believe. I’m not sure that had anything to do with it. Nor are the doctors for that matter. But I came back and (phone rings) I had a seizure.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I INDICATED FOR REGGIE TO CONTINUE SPEAKING INTO THE TAPE RECORDER AS I RETURNED TO MY STATION TO ASSIST A CALLER.)
E: Where I was out of commission for approximately 30 or 40 minutes. All of the period of that time span is still a blur to me even six weeks later. I’ve gone through several tests: CAT scans, MRIs, spinal taps — a whole gamut — a battery of tests and, to this day, everything has been determined as normal so the real cause of this — seizure is what they officially called it — has not yet been determined. There is not a history in my family of having seizures, nor am I an epileptic. So, to this point, it’s all a mystery. (“UM-HUH” “UM-HUH” “UM-HUH”)
Q: Okay.
( . . . )
Q: So, real quick, I try not to talk about my book because it’s about the supernatural.
E: Um-huh.
Q: It’s about (“THE”) an Entity. (“FRIEND” “THAT’S MY”) But He only draws upon (“WARNING”) people He likes. So if that was the case it’s kind of a compliment.
E: Um-huh. (“O”) Okay. (small laugh) That’s different (“BO” “THING”) from anything I’ve heard before. (“REALLY”) It sounds interesting. (“STAY”)
Q: Um-huh. (“UM-HUH”)
( . . . )
Q: This is my last interview (“L A”) at the Hotline. I’m not even going to bring my tape recorder because it’s just too much of a temptation. (“UP” “BUT”) I overheard Terry mentioning he used to work for the (“AA”) Secret Service so I have to ask him about this. (“IN PHILADELPHIA”)
T: What would you like to ask me about it?
Q: What branch or — (“WAS”)
T: Well, there is no branch. (“NO GAY”) It’s the United States Secret Service.
Q: Is it like CIA or FBI or —
T: Well, it’s a division of the Treasury Department.
Q: Okay. (“AND NOW”)
T: When I was working, there was counterfeiting and executive protection. (“OF”)
Q: Um-huh.
T: Now they’re into credit card fraud and other things. (“NO”) But yeah. And I worked at —
Q: Did they ever do any telephone tapping? (“NO”)
T: Well, of course. Every federal agency does when they’re — (“WHEN YOU’RE”) anybody who’s chasing (“IN”) a criminal always seeks a court order.
Q: Um-huh. (“AA”) And you were dodging bullets?
T: Well, anybody (“IN THE”) who’s in (“PAPER”) law enforcement has the potential (“THE”) to be shot at and I was working (“STILL”) counterfeiting in Miami (“PRAY FOR”) a while and we got shot at. Yeah. (“OHWITHOUTAMO”)
Q: Wow. (“TYPE OF THE DISEASE” “OH YEAH” “FILMMAKER”) That sounds exciting, though.
T: Well, it was at the time and when you’re a young person, that’s cool. Right now is not the time to be shot at. So I quit.
Q: Okay, thank you. (“NOW RETURN”)
( . . . )
T: Now, come on. Now this is one of the more grotesque things a human can do is to stick something in somebody’s face. There’s a plane with the entire crew. It crashed, killed hundreds of people and the crew walked away. (“SURE DID”)
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: TERRY WAS TELLING ME ABOUT A STORY IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT DAY.)
Q: That’s (“YOU HAD”) another hang-up.
T: There’s some missing. They originally said that there was — one, the fifth apparently that they couldn’t find who might have been killed in there but these were Russians. It was an unauthorized flight. It was overweight. It was unregistered. (small laugh) But I’m thinking, “In Africa?” I’m shocked. (“OH YEAH”) Shocked. (“UM-HUH”) (small laugh) (“MM-MM”)
Q: And how many people died?
T: Well, again, there’s stories of 280 from one source, 350 from another and here’s a doctor who says over 600 have been confirmed dead so, again —
E: An open-air market place.
T: Yeah, it was just at the end of the runway and the plane couldn’t get up and so it came down — apparently soft enough so that the people lived but it skidded enough so that it just trashed that market. I’m thinking, “What the hell are they putting a market at the end of a runway for?” (“UM-HUH”)
E: Now this is true. (“THEY BLAME IT”)
T: There’s plenty of space in Africa. Plenty of space. (“GOOD I’LL DO”)
Q: And that’s from the Times’ wire services.
E: That’s Zaire?
T: Yeah. Kinshasa, which is the capital of Zaire. ‘The rumble in the jungle’ happened (“AA”) there back in (“I” “ODIN AA”) ’73. (“YEAH” “AA WE”) Okay. Sorry. (“HITCHCOCK”)
( . . . )
(“GG”)
Q: So how many hang-ups have you had? I’ve had three.
T: Two in a row and Reggie just had one so there were —
E: I had two now.
T: — two. (“OKAY SO”)
Q: I hope it isn’t —
T: Don’t be (“NO”) ascribing this to anything other than mean people. It is not your entity, your inner spirit, your inner child or anything else.
E: Oh, I see you talk to everyone about this.
T: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. This is a man with absolutely no shame who isn’t afraid to tell you that his entity — as a matter of fact we found a (“A”) suspicious Tootsie Roll wrapper there.
Q: What can I say? (“E”)
T: Say you’re sorry. (“NICE”)
Q: I have to tell you about the anagram in my name some time.
T: ‘Eat shit and die’? Is that an anagram of your name? (laughs)
Q: No. (“WOULD IT”)
T: What would it be?
Q: Well, it’s worse than you think.
T: Mark Russell?
Q: Well, my pseudonym is Mark Russell Bell. So Mabus (“OH”) is an anagram in my name. (“OKAY”)
T: Yeah, I saw the B there and I said, “What is the B?” Because all I know you as is Mark Russell.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: TERRY WAS REFERRING TO MY LAND’S END BAG. I REPLACED THE ONE I HAD TAKEN TO OKLAHOMA LATE LAST YEAR.)
Q: MRB. Mark Russell Bell. That’s my writing pseudonym.
T: I see.
( . . . )
Q: (speaking into tape recorder in car) Well, the stock market closed up today but I think you get the point. I obviously am not going to be reporting on the stock market every day.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: AT THE TIME, MY SPECULATION WAS THAT THE ENTITY WAS SAVING ME FROM CATASTROPHE. AND HE WAS — YET IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN WHAT I WAS INITIALLY EXPECTING. THE SIMPLE TRUTH IS THAT PROFITING FROM THE STOCK MARKET IS EVIL. GREED MOTIVATES EXECUTIVES TO BREAK THEIR SACRED BOND WITH CO-WORKERS BY DOWNSIZING AND LAYING OFF EMPLOYEES TO ATTRACT STOCK TRADERS, WHO THEMSELVES ARE MOTIVATED BY GREED IN THIS VICIOUS CYCLE THAT IS REPEATED IN ENDLESS VARIATIONS THROUGH EVERY FACET OF ENTERPRISE IN OUR CONTEMPORARY SOCIETY. HOW COULD IT BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SIN TO CONDUCT BUSINESS CONCERNED ONLY WITH WHAT IS TO ONE’S PERSONAL ADVANTAGE WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE RAMIFICATIONS OF HOW THE INVESTMENT IS AFFECTING OTHERS?)
Q: It’s making me very nervous how much transcribing I have to do so I really have to try to edit my thoughts better because I’m so far behind. My horoscope did say, however, “Music” today so I stopped by Rockaway and listen to a selection from A Testimonial Dinner: The Songs of XTC.
Dear God, I hope You got the letter and I pray You can make it better down here . . .
Q: I love XTC. This is a CD that features the music of XTC performed by all these famous artists. It’s like, “Wow.” I’m driving. I also got the soundtrack for “Seven,” The Best of Gordon Lightfoot and Tangerine Dream: The Dream Mixes. I love Tangerine Dream. It’s so weird living a book. (“KKK”) You’re always thinking of what’s best for the book. It’s like your life becomes a movie. It’s just very strange. I keep thinking about reality and other people and what they think about me. (“X”) What is reality? What is reality?
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE NEXT RECORDED CONVERSATION IS WITH MAXINE.)
M: Hello?
Q: Oh hi, Maxine.
M: Hi, Mark. How are you getting along?
Q: Very good.
M: Good. (“YET”) Anything new develop? (“WELL”)
Q: Well, no, today was one of my volunteer days at the Hotline. And I just went to the supermarket and the record store. And the supermarket clerk who puts the groceries in the bag (“CALL”) is missing his wallet.
M: (gasps) Oh no.
Q: Oh yes.
M: Oh no.
Q: So I was trying to get Mighael to give it back my saying to the clerk, “Well, when you get home I think it’s going to be in your dresser drawer” — trying to give Mighael the hint. I don’t know if it worked or not. (“TTT”)
M: Oh my God.
Q: Yeah. (“IT’S LIKE”) So, anyway, anything new with you?
M: No. I just wondered if there’s anything new with you. (small laugh)
Q: I (“BLESS”) spoke to Twyla —
M: Did she tell you about him getting the rent money?
Q: Yeah. ([MAXINE] “OHHHHH” “OF”) And, of course, He got your SocialSecurity check or money.
M: My SSI check in the (“IS IN”) 1st of December.
Q: Well, He hasn’t taken any money from me. But, of course, working on the book is quite expensive because I don’t have an income. I mean my mom probably (“WOULD”) would be upset if she knew that I bought four CDS today but, obviously, I’m not worried.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: I understand that Brenda’s now looking at the manuscript so (“I[T]”) when she’s done are you going — I guess Twyla’s (“NOT”) going to call me and give me any typos or any changes.
M: Probably.
Q: Okay, fine. (“NO”) And what did (“DO”) you think of it? (“OF” “WHEN HE”)
M: Oh, it’s alright, I guess.
Q: That’s just from the first day.
M: I haven’t looked at it much. You know me. I’ve got to be busy. I can’t sit that long.
Q: Yeah. So everything’s going well. Of course, (“IT’S”) it’s over a thousand pages, single-spaced. (“UM”) I probably have ten tapes I haven’t transcribed yet because things keep happening so I just keep recording. (“OO”) And I don’t know if anyone else can transcribe them for me or not. (“PROBABLY”) Probably not because they won’t get the sounds. Well, maybe they could. (“BUT”) They won’t get any spirit sounds. They won’t be able to differentiate the spirit voices from mine and what-have-you. (“UM-HUH”) It took me a long time.
M: Yeah. (“I[T]”)
Q: So I’m getting better at it.
M: Well, he give me $5 back Sunday. That’s about all I’ve got back. But I had about $17 in my purse and he got it. It was under Bill’s pillow back there. And I got to looking for some pictures in this locked box. And Twyla looked in there. She said, “Is this purse supposed to be in there?” I said, “No, it was under Bill’s pillow.” I looked in it and all my green was gone. And he threw a whole bunch of pennies in here the other day. A friend of ine’s here right now. She was here when it happened.
Q: Oh really? What’s your friend’s name?
M: Kathy Lynch. I’ll let you talk to her a minute.
Q: Okay.
K: Mark what? Hello, Mark, how are you?
Q: Oh, hi. One of my friends is named Sharon Lynch. Are you familiar with the director David Lynch?
K: Oh, you aren’t — where are you? In California?
Q: Yeah.
K: Well, there’s a whole bunch of them out there. (“ARE THEY”)
Q: Your relatives? (“THE”)
K: They’re probably my husband’s relatives.
Q: Oh, I see.
K: He’s got a bunch of people out there in California — a bunch of cousins, a son and a brother.
Q: Right. It’s so interesting tracing genealogy and ancestry. I mean people named Lynch all have to be connected somewhere on the same family tree so it’s just interesting to think about.
K: Right. Very interesting. (“WELL”)
Q: So you saw some phenomena? Some pennies?
K: I’ve seen several things since I’ve been out here.
Q: Have you heard Mighael speak?
K: Yes, I’ve heard him speak. (“KEN”)
Q: What did He say?
K: Maxine was in here cooking Christmas dinner. I guess that was Christmas Eve. All the grandkids were here and it was real noisy and Maxine was kind of talking to herself about something. I think she was fixing to put the turkey in the oven. All of a sudden he just spoke up and said, “WELL I KNOW THAT.”
Q: He knows everything. (“HUH”)
K: Then, Saturday, when I was over here he was in a whistling mood and you could hear him whistling.
Q: So He’s in a good mood these days.
K: He was really in a good mood Sunday. He felt extremely good Sunday.
Q: Oh, that’s good.
K: Of course, that was the day he took Maxine’s money. And, through the wall in the living room where the pictures are, He threw pennies from one end of that wall to the other clear to in here in the kitchen. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was probably $2 or $3 worth of pennies. He just scattered them all over that wall.
Q: Let me speak to Him now — no, I’m just kidding.
K: (laughs) Well, I wish I could do that. (“HUH”)
Q: Exactly.
K: One of the things that I’ve seen that has been the most astonishing is Maxine and I were here one day and this hanging ivy basket over there in the corner started swinging.
Q: Um-huh. Oh. (“OKAY”)
K: And it was just swinging enough that you could just — if you looked at it really hard —
Q: It’s the usual parlor tricks.
K: — you could tell that it was moving. And then it just got moving faster and faster and faster until it was swinging for all that it could to stay on the hook.
Q: Okay. Well, thank you. (“NOW P[UT]”) Put Maxine back on.
K: Alright. Thank you.
M: Yeah?
Q: So, Maxine, you have swinging plants. Meanwhile, here I am in L.A. and I have to deal with the realization that I’m not only a Antichrist but the only Antichrist.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: Can you believe that?
M: Uh-huh.
Q: I mean but I’m a nice Antichrist. I mean just because I’m the Antichrist doesn’t mean I’m bad.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: You know it’s just basically E=MC2. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: And there were some things about Jesus that weren’t good. It’s a long story.
M: Yeah.
Q: (small laugh) But, anyway, everything is going according to schedule I guess. No, definitely. Definitely. I’m going to make Mighael mad at me again.
M: Are you?
Q: Well, I mean I make mistakes.
M: Um-huh.
Q: Because I always (“YOU KNOW”) — it’s hard to explain.
M: Yeah.
Q: But everything is going perfectly according to schedule. Notice I say perfectly.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: So the book will be done when it’s meant to be done.
M: Did you get the family tree letter?
Q: No, not yet. (“GAIL”)
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: WHEN I HEARD THIS SPIRIT MESSAGE I REMEMBERED ONE OF THE AGENCY CLIENTS WHEN I WAS A TALENT AGENT: GAIL FISHER.)
Q: That was (“B”) a very bad call that I had with her.
M: Oh really?
Q: We just didn’t see eye to eye.
M: Ohhhhhh.
Q: So go ahead and send me what you have.
M: Alright.
Q: I don’t think she’s going (“HE”) to be sending anything else.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: Unless she comes to her senses. (“NO”)
M: Well, I’ll say. What happened? (“SHE”)
Q: She said, “Get thee behind me, Satan.” That’s about all I can remember. (laughs)
M: My God. (“A”) That’s not like her.
Q: What? I know. I said it’s just information. I mean — anyway. (“YOU MIGHT”) If you talk to her, just don’t even mention me. Just ask her to send you the information. (“AND”) You can even lie and tell her that you won’t give it to me but then go ahead and give it to me.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: Okay?
M: Yeah.
Q: So, anyway, everything’s going very well. (“WELL”) I’m very happy.
M: Uh-huh. (“MI”)
Q: I think Mighael’s very happy too.
M: Yeah.
Q: I don’t want to tell you any of the more sensational aspects. You’ll have to read them in the book because you probably wouldn’t believe them anyway. And I don’t even know on what level of reality they occurred in.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: So, (“OOO”) anyway, it’s really puzzling. I mean you’d think (“WHAT”) He would at least tell me what He has planned. You know?
M: Yeah.
Q: As His co-author. (“YOU KNOW HE”) You think that He would tell me what’s going to happen. The only thing I would say today is for everyone not to go to the dentist for a while.
M: Oh, really?
Q: Yeah.
M: (small laugh)
Q: Apparently, there is a possibility (“THAT”) HIV can be transmitted through dental offices. That’s a scary thought.
M: Yes, it is.
Q: Because they have the power to give (“YOU KNOW”) illness. (“SSS”) As you know with Bill.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: People can get illnesses if They think that’s best for them in their existence plan, so to speak. (“YOU KNOW”) If that’s what’s going to make them a better person and bring them to God in the right frame of mind, people are going to get illnesses. And HIV is definitely one of them. I mean can you imagine what’s happening in the world when you consider Hong Kong and Bombay? I mean the world is going to be decimated by AIDS. It’s just a matter of when. And how — (“AND”) to what extent it is going to be in the United States. (“THAT”)
M: That’s become an epidemic, anyway.
Q: Right. But it’s going to get much worse I have a feeling.
M: Uh-huh.
Q: I mean people are still getting it in blood transfusions. Middle America, wake up. (“PPP”) This is your wake-up call.
M: Uh-huh. Did you call this evening? (“NA”)
Q: No.
M: Well, somebody did. Bill didn’t get to the phone.
Q: You had a hang-up?
M: Well, he didn’t get to it before they hung up.
Q: You haven’t heard anything from any of the LMNO people, have you?
M: No, I haven’t.
Q: That’s good. (“AA”)
M: I don’t even call them anymore. (“WELL”)
Q: There’s no reason to.
M: Uh-uh.
Q: And you haven’t had any calls from reporters or anything?
M: No.
Q: Well, everything’s fine then.
M: That’s what I wanted to know.
Q: I’m busy working.
M: Alright.
Q: Okay, bye.
M: Get to work.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE NEXT RECORDED CONVERSATION IS WITH ANDY GEVANTHOR.)
Q: Oh hi, Andy?
Y: Hi, Mark. This is the situation. Two things about the apartments here. Well, number one, they are fixing them all up. There are about fifty that are vacant right now but nobody’s supposed to know. And they are putting in new carpeting. (“HHH”) They are painting them and they’re putting in new kitchen appliances.
Q: Wow.
Y: Then, they’re going to rent them. Now, I told Michael about this and Michael thought they’d be great for your mother to live here. And I said, “Well, I think we can attempt to get one apartment.” He said, “Well, talk to Mark about it and see if he wants it or if he thinks our mother should have it if we could get one.” What do you think about that?
Q: I’ve always wanted to live in Santa Monica. A psychic once said I would live in Santa Monica. But I haven’t acted on it because of theprophecies regarding Mabus and the Son of Man and all that said that I would be discovered across from a religious center. But I guess I’ve already been discovered so I guess I can move without any problem.
Y: What do you think about your mother? Do you think she’s had a hard life and she should live in a place like this?
Q: I don’t know. You’ll have to ask her.
Y: Yeah, but since (“WE”) you and I talked about it first, it would have to be if you wanted her to —
Q: Well, I wouldn’t want to live in the same building that she lives in.
Y: I don’t think we can get two apartments. I think if we can get anything we can maybe get one.
Q: How much does it go for a month?
Y: The one I’m thinking of is $767 a month.
Q: I think (“BO[TH]”) both my mom and I could afford that.
Y: Right. (“BU[T]”) What we have to do is write a letter. But the question is if it’s going to be for your mother, then it should be in her name. And if it’s going to be for you it should be in your name.
Q: Okay, well why don’t you call her and ask her and then let me know? I’m interested.
Y: Well, do you want her to have first dibs on it?
Q: Yes.
Y: Would you please ask her then if she wants to live here?
Q: Okay.
Y: The best way to go about this is to use Doris’s name. And there is one apartment that I looked at myself. I was thinking of changing my apartment. It is now $675 but all the rents are going up 15% per vacant apartment. So it would be $761. It’s on the fifteenth floor. It’s got a south view like Doris’s.
Q: I’d love a view of the ocean.
Y: It’s got a big view of the ocean.
Q: I want it.
Y: Yeah, but what about your mother?
Q: Well, I’ll call her and ask her.
Y: Because Michael just thought that she’d had a really hard life. This would be like a nice (“YEAH”) thing for her.
Q: If she wants it she can have it.
Y: Well, Mark, can you hold one second?
Q: Sure.
Y: If I’m gone on this other call for more than ten seconds I’ll call you right back. It’s my doctor and I don’t have your number with me.
