INTERVIEW — TAPE #29, SIDE #1
Q: Mark Russell Bell
J: Allison Jackson (friend)
(“DEAR”)
Q: (speaking into tape recorder) I’m on my way home from the Hotline and some unusual things happened today. A call came in on one of the phones even though the ‘make busy’ was on and Terry who was working in the next booth pointed out to me how weird that was. So I mentioned to him the fact that I have this Entity with me. I told him a little bit about (“MMM”) my experience in Oklahoma and my book. So he asked me if it was an energy around me and I said, “Well, I really don’t know.” And then, later, I had a call from a lady who wanted a referral for a local AIDS organization in San Diego in order to contribute money to them. (“AND”) So I wasn’t quite sure which one to recommend so I went to ask Faith and when I came back the book was open to the right page. Michael was helping me. Thank you, Michael. Too bad you can’t talk — well, you probably can but you aren’t — because you probably could be a good Hotline listener yourself. And I called up Allison at Paramount and I’m excited because I’m going to drop by and visit her later. She left a drive-on gate pass for me. So I have a 3:30 appointment and that’s pretty (“I’M”) — that’s very (“FRIEN” “THAT’S WHAT”) — that’s something that a friend would do. Because after somebody tells you they’re experiencing supernatural phenomena by an Entity that has the power to destroy the world, that’s true friendship to (“HAG”) give them a drive-on to visit you after hearing that — and then even after hearing a vignette to explain His power. So I’m excited. I get to see Allison. (“UH-HUH”) Maybe I’ll ask her to mention it to Sherry to help me get my movie deal. (“UH-HUH”)
( . . . )
Q: I just read in Variety that another accident has occurred on the set of a Paramount movie, involving (“UM”) Elisabeth Leustig, the casting director for “The Saint.” I’m very upset because she was a friend of mine. (“UH-HUH”) I sort of lost touch with her (“UH-HUH”) over the years. (“BUT”) I remember working with her a lot when I was a talent agent. (“NO”) And I thought she was a neat person. (“PROB”) Probably my favorite casting director. Whenever anyone asks me who’s my favorite casting director, I always mention her. So I was very upset to read about her being, (“UM”) um, struck by a car and killed in Russia. I remember I booked Dody Goodman on one of Leustig’s less auspicious films, “Private Resort.” (“UM” “AND”) I remember going to the screening. And I met Rob Morrow and Johnny Depp. Of course, I’ve done some press kits (“UH-HUH” “UM”) for Paramount films with Johnny since then. The first was “What’s Eating (“YEAH” “UM”) Gilbert Grape,” which was a beautiful movie. (“YEAH” “I”) I was very surprised when Darlene Cates who plays the mother in the film didn’t get any recognition from the critics for her role. It was really an Academy Award-worthy role (“UM”) but I guess because it was her first film, people just didn’t take her seriously even though I think maybe if they had promoted her a little bit maybe it might have helped. I don’t know. I’m just saying (“THAT”) it seemed like one of those Oscar-caliber roles. I mean now who else could have played a 400-lb. fat woman as well as a a 400-lb. fat woman who also happened to be a brilliant actress? I mean if that isn’t worthy of an Academy Award I don’t know what is. (“NO”) But she wasn’t even nominated. (“UH-HUH”) Even though Paramount (“DDD”) did send out the video. (“UH-HUH”) The last film I saw at Paramount before going to Oklahoma was “Nick of Time.” (“UH-HUH” “AND UM”) I did hand in a version of the press kit production information but I don’t know if that was the final version that went out or not. (“TWO”) Because you never know what changes are made either by the filmmakers or by the other publicity staff members. (“UH-HUH”)
( . . . )
Q: So I’m at Paramount and I just said “hello” to Arthur Cohen and he just said “hello” back so I guess I was wrong about him. (“UH-HUH”) As I am about so many things, (“UH-HUH”) which is another one of the themes of this book. (“UH-HUH”)
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE FOLLOWING IMPROMPTU INTERVIEW IS WITH ALLISON JACKSON IN HER OFFICE. I DO NOT INDICATE PAUSES DURING ALLISON’S TELEPHONE CONVERSATIONS.)
Q: I’m here with Allison Jackson, my friend (“YEAH”) who’s always here in her office at Paramount. I always know right where I can find her. (“YOU’RE TOO HAPPY”)
J: Frightening thought. (“WITH HER”)
Q: With her papers and people wanting videos, airplane tickets —
J: Um-huh. (“UM”)
Q: — charitable donations — you name it. So, anyway, she was just mentioning that something was missing. (“UM”) Um — “The Firm” desk diaries.
J: Yes, the special press gift that we had made — the beautiful “The Firm” filofaxes that we have here.
Q: And I have a green one. Yours is brown.
J: Mine is brown and we made black and red. And they’re gorgeous. I had a few extras and they disappeared while I was on maternity leave, interestingly enough.
Q: Interestingly enough. (“NO”) And no more misplaced keys?
J: No.
Q: Okay, that’s good. (“YEAH”) Well, what I found out, Allison — in fact, just today I realized the extent of this. When I went to Oklahoma, I tape recorded interviews on microcassettes.
J: Of course.
Q: And when I got home there were voices on the microcassettes that I didn’t hear at the time of the interviews. (“ARE YOU”) Spirit voices.
J: Oh, you’re kidding me.
Q: Poltergeist/angel voices.
J: Oh my God. Oh my God. (“I MEAN”)
Q: I know. Well, get this, Allison. (“SEE” “YOU KNOW”) I was going over some of my old Paramount interviews.
J: Uh-huh.
Q: Like one with Frank Marshall that I did. And you can hear the Entity on those tapes as well. (“WE’RE A DUO”) So He was with me all the time I was here. And so that’s why (“UH-UHH-HHH”) when you misplaced the keys — he must have misplaced people’s things. (“AND TAKE A LITTLE”) Like dollar bills. And He does all these, like, parlor tricks.
J: It’s so strange. (“YEAH”)
Q: So I’m writing —
J: So cool. So strange.
Q: — a book about it. I guess you didn’t see the special. Nobody saw the special called —
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I REALIZED I FORGOT TO BREAK THE TABS ON THIS CASSETTE WHEN I ERASED A PORTION OF THE TAPE HERE WHILE TRANSCRIBING.)
(“ASS HOLE” “LLL”)
Q: — “Ghosts, Mediums, Psychics: Put To The Test.” I wrote a letter to Sherry Lansing about it. (“BUT”) She didn’t respond so I don’t know if she saw it or not or —
J: Not yet. Yeah.
Q: You think she will respond?
J: I think she responds to all of her mail. How long ago did you send it?
Q: I guess around August the 24th or 25th.
J: Oh, that’s a long time ago.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE CORRECT DATE IS NOVEMBER 27TH.)
Q: And I also mentioned all the press kits I had done for her movies. (“CALL HER” “BONE” “OOOHHHHHH”) “Fatal Attraction.” (“YOU KNOW”) “The Accused.” “Black Rain.”
J: Wow.
Q: “School Ties.” I was hoping that would butter her up. (“UH-HUH”)
J: Wow. (“SO” “MAYBE”) Well, I thought she, you know — if she doesn’t answer all her mail personally, she gives it to people like me, Brad Kessel (“NO”) and other people to answer. (“WELL THAT’S — THAT’S”) I’m surprised that you didn’t get an answer.
Q: That’s a good sign, Allison, because my book is also a documentary on the making of the film that, hopefully, will be made from my book.
J: Oh, that’s so (“SO”) interesting. (“AND AND SINCE YOU GOT TO MEET”)
Q: Right. So because of the Paramount tie-in, I think it has to be a Paramount picture.
J: Oh, I think it should be. (“UH”) Let me check back here.
Q: Especially since the entity’s name is Michael. And I think He’s the angel Michael, as I mentioned to you over the phone. I think He’s an angel.
J: As opposed to your brother, the Devil Michael. No.
Q: (small laugh)
J: (laughs) I’m joking, Michael Russell. (“HERE” “DAYTIME”) Teasing.
Q: That’s okay. (“BUT UM”) Today, did you just hear that, um, Liz Leustig died?
J: No. (“SHE”) Who’s that?
Q: She was the casting director on “The Saint.” She was hit by a car in Russia and died. (“NO”) So how many films has this been where people have had freak accidents?
J: Oh God.
Q: There was — what was that film?
J: Oh, that’s so sad. (“UM”) “Vampire in Brooklyn.” (“YEAH”)
Q: There was, um, (“OH”) — oh — “The Crow.” (“WHICH”) It didn’t become a Paramount movie after that. (“BUT” “WHAT ARE”) Have there been any films that I missed (“WHERE THAT”) where people have died that you can think of?
J: Not off the top of my head but I’m sure there are. (“YEAH”)
Q: Anyway, it’s not something that (“UHH” “ISN’T IT” “SO TRUE”) is an especially appealing subject for a book. (“NO” “BUT”) I mean we all have to go sometime and it’s just (“THERE”) there’ve been all these freakish things happening.
J: That’s so weird.
Q: I don’t think Michael’s doing them though. (“I’M” “SURE HE IS”) Yes. (“UH-HUH”) So let’s see — so what else? So do you have any questions about my experiences?
J: No, but I want to — away from the office where I’m not being interrupted by phone calls every two seconds — sit down and talk and hear all about it. I really want to hear about your trip to Oklahoma and the people you met. Let me pick this call up. (“LIAR”) Hello? (“NOBODY”) Hello? (“HI BLAISE”) Hi, this is Allison. Hi. (“OH YEAH”) Uh-huh. (“YOU”) Uh-huh. (“FRIEND” “CALL”) Hi. Okay, can you fax us this information? (“OWL”) Let me give you the fax number. We’re looking for his branch, his mailing address and a copy of his Academy card. (“ALREADY”) Terrific. Thank you. Bye-bye. (“SO THE BIG”)
Q: The big Paramount film this year for the Academy campaign, I guess, is “Braveheart.”
J: Yeah. Definitely “Braveheart.” (“AND”)
Q: I’ve been doing some research on (“OF UM”) my (“AND”) family tree and it turns out that Russell (“UH”) goes back to Scotland.
J: Oh, how fun. (“YOU’RE RIGHT”) Oh, it does. Scotland. (“UH-HUH”) Huh.
Q: Yeah. I’m also researching my mother’s ancestry now and her maiden name was King. (“I’M”)
J: What kind of name was that? King?
Q: I’m not sure because she was adopted.
J: Ohhh. (“SO I’M”)
Q: I’m still waiting to find out about that. So all these things are going into my book. (“YEAH” “VERY”) Now — (“THE”) the thing about your fainting spells. And that’s what I mentioned to you before (“OH NO”) because I’ve had fainting spells too. And our friend Marie “UH-HUH”) has had fainting spells. (“MORE”) It’s not necessarily a bad thing because the Entity usually draws from people He likes. (“TURN IT DOWN”) So we should be glad that He chose us. (“OH SHIT”) Right?
J: How funny.
Q: Right? (“WELL I GUESS THERE’S SOME”)
J: Yeah. (“AS LONG AS NOT”)
Q: No damage was done.
J: I bet there’s interesting — that’s a very positive (“RIGHT”) way of looking at that. (“IT IS”)
Q: It is. Now there are some other things, though, that are a little bit (MORE”) more frightening like Carol’s baby being born three months early with the eyes open. (“YEAH” “YOU KNOW”) I don’t know if that’s a tie-in or not. (“BUT THAT’S MORE”) That’s more frightening.
J: That is frightening. (“HAVE YOU EVER”)
Q: Do you ever speak to Carol?
J: Yeaaaaah. Yeah. I do. I love her. (“NO”)
Q: I called her to wish her good luck — (“IN HER NEW”) her new position at Fox. (“CALL YOU BACK”) But I haven’t — (“I DIDN’T HEAR”) — ever hear back from her. So, anyway —
J: Well, she’s been very busy. She is, in fact — I don’t even know if she’s back from New York yet (“SHE WOULDN’T”) because she’s working on “Waiting to Exhale.” And that’s her movie.
Q: What is that about?
J: Ummm.
Q: One line. (“UM-HUH”)
J: Four women. I don’t know — I haven’t seen it yet — but there’s the four women and their love — or lack of love affairs. (“SSS” “WE FUCK”)
Q: Oh, okay. Well, that sounds like my life.
J: But it’s Angela Bassett (“RIGHT”) and Whitney Houston.
Q: Oh, right. Whitney Houston is a fellow Leo. I’m a Leo too.
J: Aahhhh. (“VIOLENT”)
Q: And so is President Clinton.
J: Oh, that’s interesting. (“IS IT”) But she hasn’t been back. So if you haven’t heard from her, it’s maybe because of that. (“RIGHT”) I talk to her all the time. (“CRYING FIT”)
Q: Well, people in the film industry are so busy. It’s like who has time to return anyone’s call?
J: Isn’t it frightening?
Q: It’s very frightening. That’s why I’m happy to be away from it. I’m trying to think what else I should ask you. (“DON’T FEEL BAD”) Well, so, of course, everything just about comes up in these interviews. So even little things — (“I MEAN YOU’LL”) later on, you’ll read it. (“IT’S A”)
J: So, tell me what kind of stuff you want to know from me so I’ll remember to tell you the right thing.
Q: Well, it’s sort of a tell-all. (“I MEAN I’M NOT SAYING ANY”) It’s becoming a tell-all book of an industry. (“NOT THAT”) Not through any choice of my own — but just about anything comes up sometimes. Because it’s about people being overlooked and what-have-you. (“SO LIKE”) For example, once I was talking about the time I didn’t get a Publicists Guild Award for “Forrest Gump.”
J: Um-huh. (“YOU KNOW”)
Q: And I know that you have nothing to do with that. It was probably because I was freelance and not on staff.
J: Right.
Q: But that was one thing that came up. Can you believe it? (“NO I”)
J: Yeah, I can believe it because these are things people don’t (“THEY THINK”) think about. I mean you know. It’s like out of sight is out of mind. So, yeah, I believe it.
Q: And plus my table position was bad but I didn’t really mind. I liked being with Shaylee.
J: Well, that’s kind of hard to control because all the other people are on the staff so — you know.
Q: No, I know. Exactly. (“GAIN WEIGHT”)
J: It’s tough. It’s very tough.
Q: Um-huh.
J: I agree with you.
Q: But thank you for (“EHH” “SENDING”) paying all my bills. I guess the only thing I haven’t been paid for —
J: Always. (“IS”)
Q: — the night before I went to Oklahoma I had to do news releases for “Stephen King’s Thinner” and that New York movie —
J: Oh, “Night Falls on Manhattan.” Did you give those to me?
Q: Yeah, I think so. I mailed it in. So, hopefully, you got that. So, if you can check on that.
J: Okay. Got it.
Q: That would help. I spent the whole night before I left working on those news releases. Because I had to go to the bookstore to get a copy of Stephen King’s paperback and look at the positioning to make sure the positioning would be right because I didn’t have time to read the whole book and Eileen needed it ‘right now.’ (“SO”) So, as a result, I couldn’t really prepare for my trip. But, anyway — but look at this book, Allison, it’s 300 pages so far and it’s just my two preliminary calls and my first day of interviews — 300 (“WOW”) single-spaced pages.
J: Wow.
Q: I had a missing time episode.
J: You had a missing time episode? You mean like you don’t know where the time went? That kind of —
Q: How could I do 300 pages of interview material in one day? Single-spaced?
J: My God.
Q: My God.
J: Oohh. (“SO”)
Q: So I have a lot to try to figure out. And —
J: Oh, it’s complicated.
Q: It’s really complicated because I’ve also had things like burning bush phenomena.
J: What does that mean?
Q: Two bushes outside my condo burned up —
J: Oh, you’re kidding.
Q: — about a year ago. I mean there have been all these things. I have to make a confession to you.
J: Um-huh.
Q: When I first came back and I was trying to deal with all this and I called you. Remember all my frantic conversation?
J: Right. (“I DON’T EVEN”)
Q: I remember — now I’m beginning to remember some of the people I tried to call — like the head of the sound department — I can’t remember her name offhand. (“BUT”) I was trying to (“HELP PE”) find people to help me with my tapes.
J: Right.
Q: Don’t tell anyone but I thought I might have been the reincarnation of Jesus Christ.
J: Oh my God.
Q: Can you believe that? (“NO”) You know why? (“BECAUSE OF THE”) The Paramount mountain symbolism. I mean there are all these weird things going on.
J: This is going over my head. The mountain symbolism? (“IT’S” “MOUNTAIN”)
Q: The mountain. Like Moses on the mountain.
J: Ohhhhhh. (“THE TEN”)
Q: Remember the re-release of “The Ten Commandments” that we worked on?
J: Uh-huh. (“DID YOU EVER GO TO”)
Q: Did you have a chance to come to my condo and see it?
J: Yeah. When you first moved in. (“YEAH”)
Q: You didn’t see (“MY”) — I bought this thing for my press kits. (“UH”) You know — what I put all my press kits in?
J: Uh-uh. I didn’t.
Q: This beautiful thing.
J: Is it sort of a bookcase thing?
Q: Well, I thought it was a steamer trunk.
J: Ahhhhhh.
Q: It turns out it might be (“UH-HUH”) the Ark of the Covenant. (“UH-HUH”)
J: Where’d you buy it?
Q: I bought it at this antique store near the Nuart Theatre.
J: Wow.
Q: I know.
J: What makes you think that? That it could be the Ark?
Q: I measured the cubits (“UH-HUH”) in terms of in the book of Exodus (“AND LET IT SPEAK”) I worked on “Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.”
J: Right. Of course.
Q: So it’s just funny. I have — (“AND”) and I think I also have the original Declaration of Independence.
J: Where could you have gotten that?
Q: At an antique store on Hyperion. I paid $45 for it.
J: But isn’t that in a museum anywhere? (“NO”)
Q: No. The original was lost at the printers. So I think that the angel Michael is working through my subconscious mind and having me buy all these priceless antiques (“NEXT YEAR”) to prove He exists. (“WE’RE WAITING”)
J: One second.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: ALLISON PICKS UP THE PHONE TO ANSWER A CALL.)
J: Hello? (“PRAY”) Okay, great. Thank you. Hi, Rebecca. (“FRIGHTEN”) Is she the sweetest? She is the sweetest. That’s great. That’s great. Well, I’m only sorry she’s going to miss the party. I have this toy. But that’s so nice of her. Tell her thank you so much. I mean, between you and I, when we started giving out the money I was, like, embarrassed because it’s like it wasn’t looking fun. It wasn’t looking like these (“TEACHERS”) — so I mean we weren’t going to call anybody. We just figured if people were going to contribute they were. But then we started discovering that some people hadn’t got the notice, etc., so tell her “Thank you so very much” and thank you for following up. I appreciate it a lot and happy holiday. Thank you. Bye. Oh my God. (“SO I”)
Q: So I have to deal with all this stuff. (“HE MIGHT TAKE”)
J: Take them to someplace — where do you —
Q: I contacted them. (“TALK TO MARLA” “I CA”) Well, I called Sotheby’s. It’s a long story. No one will believe me. I mean I wouldn’t believe it if I didn’t have the angel Michael living with me in my condo doing parlor tricks every so often.
J: What did they say? Did they say anything?
Q: They said the Ark was a more modern piece. They didn’t come and look at it. (“BUT”) Actually, one of them is coming into L.A. in January. So he might drop by. (“HANGER”) He doesn’t know I have the Declaration of Independence too.
J: Wow. (“AND”)
Q: And Independence Hall is shut down because of the budget crisis.
J: Oh, of course. (“BUT ANYWAY”)
Q: So I have all this phenomena I’m trying to figure out and deal with — (“IN”) doing my book. (“NO”) So if you can please mention to Sherry Lansing, “I think this would be a good thing for you to look into.” I’d really appreciate it.
J: Okay, (“IT”) certainly, when the opportunity comes up.
Q: Exactly. (“EXACT”)
J: You know, you have to wait for those moments. (“RIGHT” “FROM A”)
Q: For example, like, “Oh, Sherry, by the way —” (“ACT REAL WEIRD”)
J: But, you know, (“BY”) I could always ask her office too if she received the letter you sent her back in August.
Q: I’d really appreciate it because we’ve always been close friends. I wouldn’t just tell this to anyone.
J: Sure. But let me just ask you so I’ll make sure that I have it right. Did you send her a manuscript or anything?
Q: No. I just sent a letter telling her when the show was going to be on and a copy of the Fortean Times magazine article that I had first seen about the “talking poltergeist.”
J: And tell me — let me just make sure. What was the TV show (“OH”) called again?
Q: It was called “Ghosts, Mediums, Psychics: Put To The Test.” (“UH-HUH” “SHOULD I” “NO”) Psychics: P — S — Y (“RIGHT”) — C — H — I — C — S. (“THANK YOU” “BUT — TWO”) And I have two videos at home too so I can always send her a video.
J: (reading as she writes) “To Sherry in August.” I’m going to see one of her assistants — (“HOLD TOGETHER”)
Q: In October — (“SORRY”) October was when I sent it to her.
J: In October, okay. (“THE WEEK”)
Q: The special aired on October 30th.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I MEANT NOVEMBER 30TH.)
J: Oh, of course. It would — yeah. (“NUT”) A natural for Halloween time. (“SO”)
Q: So mention it to her. Because I don’t know if she knows — does she know me? Does she even — I mean —
J: I don’t know.
Q: I mean she knows of me. I mean because of the speeches and everything (“ABOUT YOU”) but I don’t know if she — I don’t think I’ve ever been formally introduced to her.
J: I don’t know (“YEAH”) if she knows you or not.
Q: Okay. (“AND SHE”)
J: And she is gone until Christmas on a (“TOM”) cruise.
Q: Oh, okay, well so I won’t (“HOL”) hold my breath.
J: Well, you won’t hear anything before Christmas. She’ll be back next weekend and I won’t.
Q: That’s fine because I’m not finished with my book, anyway. I mean I have (“YOU KNOW A LOT OF”) transcribing still to do.
J: She needs me again. (to assistant—designated as ‘A’—outside office) Do you need me? I’m sorry.
A: . . . from Alan Ladd’s office.
J: Okay. (to me) Hold one second. (picks up receiver) Hi, Annie. How are you? I’m okay. (“I BELIEVE”) Oh, you’re kidding. So he’s on his way — well, you know what, we sent him a lovely little present anyway. And I just sent it — I think I sent it to the office. Yeah. So. Well — and you’ll take the roses home and — yeah. (squeals) That’s okay. He’s all part of the package. (“SO”) Terrific. Well, that’s — (“EH”) and you know why — that’s half of it right there is thefact that he’s been acknowledged for his part in it so — oh, God, I know. I flew last week so I (“HEAVEN”) understand. Well, that’s cool. And you must be excited. Did you guys get a copy of the list? (“THEY”) Okay. As long as you got it. (“OFTEN”) Yes. Because I left him a message too. Isn’t that funny? (“UMM”) Oh, that’s so funny. Oh, that’s great. That’s so funny. Oh, he’s sweet. Oh, cool. Cool. Cool. Very good. Well, have happy holiday. Are you going away? Oh great. Oh good. Yeah. But I’ve got babies now so traveling during the holidays is just forget it. Not fun. Uh-uh. Especially because you got the presents and the toys. Nuhno. Forget it. (laughs) Well, you have a great time and I’ll talk to you after the holiday. Okay, bye. (“WHO CARES”)
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I PICK UP A MOVIE TIE-IN SOUVENIR PENCIL THAT I SUDDENLY NOTICED ON THE FLOOR.)
Q: By the way, Allison, this was on the floor. Was this supposed to be on the floor? Or was this poltergeist phenomena?
J: Probably poltergeist phenomena.
Q: Really?
J: I mean it’s not supposed to be on the floor.
Q: Well, was this in your pencil holder?
J: I don’t know. Or it could have (“IT”) fallen off the desk kind-of-thing but now I’m not going to know.
Q: This is a “School Ties” pencil which was on the floor.
J: Sherry Lansing.
Q: And a Sherry Lansing tie-in. She produced the film. And I wrote the press kit.
J: So funny.
Q: It’s weird.
J: That’s so funny. Just little — tiny things like this.
Q: Exactly.
J: (picking up the phone again) Hello? (“LINE THREE AGAIN”) Oh, okay. Hold on. Hey, Mar(y). Are you happy? Do you like what they did? (“NO”) Oh, I thought you were going to be there. Okay. Wow. Okay. Yeah, only one done. Okay. (“MAR”) Well, listen. I took out the roses to three people cause Reuther and Douglas are in Africa and Laddy just left for Hawaii. So I was just about to call Eric to tell him, “You don’t have to send roses for Laddy.” Uh, (“UH”) Yeah. Okay. Alrighty. Uh-huh. Okay. Cool. And what did we end up — we ended up with Dome? Okay. Oh, listen, I — listen to me — I sound like a snob here. No, I think it’s wonderful. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Isn’t that amazing? I do too. That little cutey pie. (“UH-HUH”) (laughs) (“WHAT YOU GET”) I wanted to go to them. I mean Harrison’s landing at 3:45 so it’s fine. And he’s probably just landing right now. Okay. I want as many, please, as possible because everybody’s leaving for the holiday. Okay, cool. And what did you — what is McQueeny getting? I really want her to get hers too. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay, cool. Cool. Cool. Yes, I have it on right now. It’s beautiful. I love it. Oh, my husband loves it too. I know. It’s great. Thank you. Reuther and Douglas. Oh, and Laddie. Alan Ladd, Jr. Bye.
Q: I was just noticing (“YOU KNOW”) some of the things in your office. Like the Star talks about Michael Jackson. He had weird fainting spells. (“OH”) And dehydration.
J: Oh.
Q: And his first name is Michael.
J: Uhahhhhhhh.
Q: Did you have (“DE”) dehydration?
J: Uhhh. (“WHEN DUR”)
Q: During your —
J: Not that I remember — I mean it’s not like — (“THE”) at the moment you know that.
Q: They might not have tested for that.
J: No. (“OOOUU” “I WONDER IF I”)
Q: I don’t know if I did or not. (“NO”) I think so. (“I — I — IT”) Perhaps, because (“NO”) there was a period when the Entity possessed me. And I definitely felt dehydrated.
J: Wahh.
Q: No, I know. So this book is going to be really great. (“NO”) I also noticed too. That magazine also talks about O. J. Simpson. Remember when we saw him at the premiere for (“YEAH”) “The Naked Gun” or — yeah, that was the premiere. (“WHAT” “SO”) Maybe that ties in too.
J: Isn’t that weird? (“UH-HUH”) That — (“OF IT”) it’s so funny now that you’re talking about it all.
Q: I didn’t watch (“WHY STALL”) the trial (“GUESS WHAT”) but the fact that I know all these people and have interacted with so many of them.
J: I know. It’s so weird.
Q: It’s weird — well, you have too. (“OKAY”) And, plus, you’re from Virginia.
J: Um-huh.
Q: Which is right near Tennessee. (“WHERE THE BELL”) The original Bell Witch case took place there. Did you ever have a chance to research your family tree?
J: No. Umm —
Q: Is anyone in your family —
J: Tom’s parents are researching their side of the tree but, no, my family is —
Q: Where’s he from?
J: Well, they’re Irish but — Philadelphia. (“ACCORDING”)
Q: Philadelphia?
J: Uh-huh. (to assistant) I’m sorry. I’m right here.
A: Tom Skerritt is on the phone. (“OF”)
J: Oh, okay, yeah. (“HOW’VE YOU BEEN”) Okay.
Q: Well, anyway, you might check.
J: One Second. Hi, Tom. I did get your message and absolutely, you know, we’re — it’s sort of like ‘Let’s get through the holidays and then we’re really going to get in to “Eye for an Eye.”’ And we’re delighted to have Wanda. Oh. Just it’s a charity thing. It’s her and a guest. Uh-huh. Well, you know. I’ll tell you. It’s hard to say (“NO”) because it’s a charity event and this is the first time. They’re writers. Do you know — I don’t know if you’ve met them or not. Yeah. Rick and Amanda. They’re the loveliest couple and they have a little boy. And the little boy has the neurofibromatosis. And it’s a scary thing because these little children get tumors all over them and, of course, you know, it could prove fatal at any time. Because it could be a brain tumor — whatever — but, anyway, that’s a charity. This is their first big thing that they’re doing for the charity. I think they’re a very, you know, well-loved couple in Hollywood. (“OKAY”) So, hopefully, the whole industry will come out and support this event. And, you know, therefore we won’t have extra seats but there’s always the — Paramount’s got a hundred seats for our top executives and the stars. So what we do is we invite the people we need to and then if we have room we try, of course, to invite celebrities because that gets the press out. So it’s all — you know.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: ALLISON LEAVES HER DESK WITH THE RECEIVER AND BEGINS LOOKING THROUGH HER PURSE FOR SOMETHING.)
J: Uh-huh. Right, exactly.
Q: (small laugh)
J: Exactly.
Q: You can’t find your keys?
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: ALLISON INDICATES SHE IS LOOKING FOR HER LIPSTICK.)
Q: Oh, your lipstick? (into tape recorder) Allison can’t find her lipstick. (small laugh)
J: I just had it.
Q: She just had it.
J: Oh yeah. Okay. Oh good. We like that too. Absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, well, that’s nice of you. Thank you very much. Thank you. It’s the night before opening so it’s definitely scheduled for the 11th.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: ALLISON REMOVES THE LIPSTICK FROM HER PURSE.)
Q: You found it? He gave it back to you.
J: I looked everywhere —
Q: I know. I know.
( . . . )
Q: So you were looking, you couldn’t find it and then you found it mysteriously?
J: It wasn’t there.
Q: I know.
J: And then it was there.
Q: See, that’s what He does.
J: I’m telling you. Because I looked for it two times in my bag.
Q: But real quick — I think I’m a channel for Him because as a child I was sexually abused. Because Michael, my brother, slept on his stomach and I didn’t. (“AND OUR MAMA HA”) Our mom might have had boyfriends.
J: Ahhhh.
Q: So you’ll have to read about it in my book to figure it all out. But the fact that you were talking about cancer on that last call — (“HASN’T”) our department had more than its share of cancer when you consider all the people.
J: Yeah, scary.
Q: It’s very scary.
J: Very scary.
Q: So —
J: Very scary.
Q: — I don’t know if it ties in or not. (“BECAUSE”) People do get cancer. But it does seem like we’ve had more than our fair share.
J: It’s very scary.
Q: We’ve all had something. (“YOU KNOW”) You know everyone has had little things.
J: Yeah.
Q: Like Blaise’s finger. My brother had Bell’s Palsy.
J: Ohhh.
Q: Bell.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: TAPE #29, SIDE #1 ENDS HERE.)
[2021 UPDATE: I HAD BEEN CONTEMPLATING THE INSTANCES THROUGHOUT MY LIFE WHEN PEOPLE WITH WHOM THERE HAD BEEN AN ACQUAINTANCE SUDDENLY DIED (SUCH AS A TALENT AGENCY CLIENT'S FRIEND, ACTOR PAUL LYNDE) AND THERE HAD BEEN AN ARTICLE IN THE LOS ANGELES TIMES ABOUT ACCIDENTAL DEATHS DURING THE MAKING OF HOLLYWOOD MOVIES. ALSO SOMETHING FOR REFLECTION DURING THE TIME WHEN I WAS WORKING AT PARAMOUNT CONCERNED WHETHER OR NOT I SHOULD CONSIDER FINDING SOMEONE TO DATE AS THIS SEEMED TO BE THE COMMON BEHAVIOR OF PEOPLE IN SOCIETY. I NEVER WAS INTERESTED IN A HETEROSEXUAL RELATIONSHIP AND MY FIRST 'CRUSH' WAS A MALE COWORKER DURING MY COLLEGE YEARS WHO I FELT WAS REPRESSING HIS GAY SIDE WHILE HAVING ONE NIGHT STANDS WITH GIRLS AS EVERYONE SEEMED TO BE ATTRACTED TO HIM. WE ONCE WENT TO SEE SOME MOVIES TOGETHER AND THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF OUR PERSONAL INVOLVEMENT. WHEN I WAS A TALENT AGENT I REALIZED THAT SOME OF THE CLIENTS (MALE AND FEMALE) WERE EXCEPTIONALLY ATTRACTIVE; HOWEVER, THE ACTOR/AGENT DYNAMIC MADE IT UNTHINKABLE AND UNETHICAL TO EVEN CONSIDER SUCH A POSSIBILITY. MY FAVORITE PERSON TO GO OUT WITH WAS MARIE, WHO HAD BEEN A CLERICAL ASSISTANT ON A 'WHEN NEEDED' BASIS AS HER PRIORITY WAS HER SINGING AND ACTING CAREER. WE DIDN'T HAVE SEXUAL FEELINGS FOR ONE ANOTHER YET MANY OF OUR INTERESTS WERE THE SAME. WHILE WORKING AT PARAMOUNT THERE WAS AN UNUSUAL MOMENT WHEN A MALE ACQUAINTANCE CAME OVER AND STARTED CARESSING MY BACK WHILE I WAS SPEAKING TO SOMEONE. THE EXPRESSION OF APPARENT ROMANTIC INTEREST SURPRISED ME AND I REALIZED THAT HIS LOOKS AND PERSONALITY WERE COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT I CONSIDERED ATTRACTIVE ALTHOUGH NO OTHER FLIRTING OCCURRED AFTER THIS INCIDENT. SOON LATER HE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER. THEN AT A SCREENING I WAS HOSTING A WOMAN ASKED IF HE'D SHOWN UP AS APPARENTLY SHE'D BEEN TOLD BY HIM THAT HE WAS GOING TO SEE THE MOVIE. IT TURNED OUT THAT SHE WAS HIS CONCERNED WIFE. AS A STAFF WRITER, I WAS WORKING AT THE COMPUTER MUCH OF THE TIME AND WASN'T 'WATCHING MY DIET.' I REALIZED THIS WAS BECOMING A PROBLEM WHEN I NEEDED TO HAVE A PHOTO TAKEN OF MYSELF TO ACCOMPANY A PUBLICISTS GUILD ARTICLE I'D WRITTEN FOR THE ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP DIRECTORY BOOK. I'D MET PHOTOGRAPHER TIMOTHY FIELDING AFTER NOTICING THE QUALITY OF HIS 'HEADSHOTS' FOR SOME CLIENTS. WHEN I RECEIVED THE PHOTOS THAT HE MADE I WAS DISTURBED BY HOW PUFFY MY FACE LOOKED AND REALIZED THAT I HAD TO START BEING MORE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT I ATE. I NOTICED THAT IT WAS WHEN SITTING DOWN THAT MY FACE BECAME 'PUFFY.' I HAD TO USE ONE OF THE 'FAT PHOTOS' FOR THE DIRECTORY YET SCHEDULED ANOTHER PHOTO SHOOT SO THAT I COULD HAVE PHOTOS TAKEN OF ME WHILE STANDING UP. THE PHOTOS OF MYSELF SEATED AND STANDING UP ARE SHOWN BELOW ALONG WITH A PHOTO OF MY TWIN BROTHER MIKE THAT WAS TAKEN BY A DIFFERENT PHOTOGRAPHER AROUND THE SAME TIME. BEING OVERWEIGHT SEEMINGLY DIMINISHED FURTHER MY INTEREST IN HAVING AN INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP WITH ANOTHER PERSON. USING MY TIME AWAY FROM THE OFFICE TO WORK ON WRITING PROJECTS WAS HOW I USED MUCH OF MY NON-WORKING HOURS. AFTER MY 'PARANORMAL INITIATION,' I WONDERED ABOUT THE PERSONALITY OF 'GOD.' THE BEST SOURCE OF INFORMATION EVENTUALLY FOUND IN THIS REGARD WERE THE ORATION TRANSCRIPTS OF PEOPLE REPRESENTING THE ASCENDED REALM OF EARTH LIFE AS PUBLISHED IN MANY BOOKS (WHEN CONSIDERED IN RELATION TO MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES OF THE GOD FORCE THROUGH THE VARIOUS INTERACTION OF MY 'GUIDE IN ONENESS'/'GUARDIAN ANGEL'). MY PERSONAL REPORTING ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF 'CHANNELING' IS PRESENTED WITH A CHANNELING CASES INDEX LIST PRESENTING MORE THAN 200 ARTICLE AND VIDEO LINKS.]
Q: (speaking into tape recorder) I’m on my way home from the Hotline and some unusual things happened today. A call came in on one of the phones even though the ‘make busy’ was on and Terry who was working in the next booth pointed out to me how weird that was. So I mentioned to him the fact that I have this Entity with me. I told him a little bit about (“MMM”) my experience in Oklahoma and my book. So he asked me if it was an energy around me and I said, “Well, I really don’t know.” And then, later, I had a call from a lady who wanted a referral for a local AIDS organization in San Diego in order to contribute money to them. (“AND”) So I wasn’t quite sure which one to recommend so I went to ask Faith and when I came back the book was open to the right page. Michael was helping me. Thank you, Michael. Too bad you can’t talk — well, you probably can but you aren’t — because you probably could be a good Hotline listener yourself. And I called up Allison at Paramount and I’m excited because I’m going to drop by and visit her later. She left a drive-on gate pass for me. So I have a 3:30 appointment and that’s pretty (“I’M”) — that’s very (“FRIEN” “THAT’S WHAT”) — that’s something that a friend would do. Because after somebody tells you they’re experiencing supernatural phenomena by an Entity that has the power to destroy the world, that’s true friendship to (“HAG”) give them a drive-on to visit you after hearing that — and then even after hearing a vignette to explain His power. So I’m excited. I get to see Allison. (“UH-HUH”) Maybe I’ll ask her to mention it to Sherry to help me get my movie deal. (“UH-HUH”)
( . . . )
Q: I just read in Variety that another accident has occurred on the set of a Paramount movie, involving (“UM”) Elisabeth Leustig, the casting director for “The Saint.” I’m very upset because she was a friend of mine. (“UH-HUH”) I sort of lost touch with her (“UH-HUH”) over the years. (“BUT”) I remember working with her a lot when I was a talent agent. (“NO”) And I thought she was a neat person. (“PROB”) Probably my favorite casting director. Whenever anyone asks me who’s my favorite casting director, I always mention her. So I was very upset to read about her being, (“UM”) um, struck by a car and killed in Russia. I remember I booked Dody Goodman on one of Leustig’s less auspicious films, “Private Resort.” (“UM” “AND”) I remember going to the screening. And I met Rob Morrow and Johnny Depp. Of course, I’ve done some press kits (“UH-HUH” “UM”) for Paramount films with Johnny since then. The first was “What’s Eating (“YEAH” “UM”) Gilbert Grape,” which was a beautiful movie. (“YEAH” “I”) I was very surprised when Darlene Cates who plays the mother in the film didn’t get any recognition from the critics for her role. It was really an Academy Award-worthy role (“UM”) but I guess because it was her first film, people just didn’t take her seriously even though I think maybe if they had promoted her a little bit maybe it might have helped. I don’t know. I’m just saying (“THAT”) it seemed like one of those Oscar-caliber roles. I mean now who else could have played a 400-lb. fat woman as well as a a 400-lb. fat woman who also happened to be a brilliant actress? I mean if that isn’t worthy of an Academy Award I don’t know what is. (“NO”) But she wasn’t even nominated. (“UH-HUH”) Even though Paramount (“DDD”) did send out the video. (“UH-HUH”) The last film I saw at Paramount before going to Oklahoma was “Nick of Time.” (“UH-HUH” “AND UM”) I did hand in a version of the press kit production information but I don’t know if that was the final version that went out or not. (“TWO”) Because you never know what changes are made either by the filmmakers or by the other publicity staff members. (“UH-HUH”)
( . . . )
Q: So I’m at Paramount and I just said “hello” to Arthur Cohen and he just said “hello” back so I guess I was wrong about him. (“UH-HUH”) As I am about so many things, (“UH-HUH”) which is another one of the themes of this book. (“UH-HUH”)
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE FOLLOWING IMPROMPTU INTERVIEW IS WITH ALLISON JACKSON IN HER OFFICE. I DO NOT INDICATE PAUSES DURING ALLISON’S TELEPHONE CONVERSATIONS.)
Q: I’m here with Allison Jackson, my friend (“YEAH”) who’s always here in her office at Paramount. I always know right where I can find her. (“YOU’RE TOO HAPPY”)
J: Frightening thought. (“WITH HER”)
Q: With her papers and people wanting videos, airplane tickets —
J: Um-huh. (“UM”)
Q: — charitable donations — you name it. So, anyway, she was just mentioning that something was missing. (“UM”) Um — “The Firm” desk diaries.
J: Yes, the special press gift that we had made — the beautiful “The Firm” filofaxes that we have here.
Q: And I have a green one. Yours is brown.
J: Mine is brown and we made black and red. And they’re gorgeous. I had a few extras and they disappeared while I was on maternity leave, interestingly enough.
Q: Interestingly enough. (“NO”) And no more misplaced keys?
J: No.
Q: Okay, that’s good. (“YEAH”) Well, what I found out, Allison — in fact, just today I realized the extent of this. When I went to Oklahoma, I tape recorded interviews on microcassettes.
J: Of course.
Q: And when I got home there were voices on the microcassettes that I didn’t hear at the time of the interviews. (“ARE YOU”) Spirit voices.
J: Oh, you’re kidding me.
Q: Poltergeist/angel voices.
J: Oh my God. Oh my God. (“I MEAN”)
Q: I know. Well, get this, Allison. (“SEE” “YOU KNOW”) I was going over some of my old Paramount interviews.
J: Uh-huh.
Q: Like one with Frank Marshall that I did. And you can hear the Entity on those tapes as well. (“WE’RE A DUO”) So He was with me all the time I was here. And so that’s why (“UH-UHH-HHH”) when you misplaced the keys — he must have misplaced people’s things. (“AND TAKE A LITTLE”) Like dollar bills. And He does all these, like, parlor tricks.
J: It’s so strange. (“YEAH”)
Q: So I’m writing —
J: So cool. So strange.
Q: — a book about it. I guess you didn’t see the special. Nobody saw the special called —
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I REALIZED I FORGOT TO BREAK THE TABS ON THIS CASSETTE WHEN I ERASED A PORTION OF THE TAPE HERE WHILE TRANSCRIBING.)
(“ASS HOLE” “LLL”)
Q: — “Ghosts, Mediums, Psychics: Put To The Test.” I wrote a letter to Sherry Lansing about it. (“BUT”) She didn’t respond so I don’t know if she saw it or not or —
J: Not yet. Yeah.
Q: You think she will respond?
J: I think she responds to all of her mail. How long ago did you send it?
Q: I guess around August the 24th or 25th.
J: Oh, that’s a long time ago.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE CORRECT DATE IS NOVEMBER 27TH.)
Q: And I also mentioned all the press kits I had done for her movies. (“CALL HER” “BONE” “OOOHHHHHH”) “Fatal Attraction.” (“YOU KNOW”) “The Accused.” “Black Rain.”
J: Wow.
Q: “School Ties.” I was hoping that would butter her up. (“UH-HUH”)
J: Wow. (“SO” “MAYBE”) Well, I thought she, you know — if she doesn’t answer all her mail personally, she gives it to people like me, Brad Kessel (“NO”) and other people to answer. (“WELL THAT’S — THAT’S”) I’m surprised that you didn’t get an answer.
Q: That’s a good sign, Allison, because my book is also a documentary on the making of the film that, hopefully, will be made from my book.
J: Oh, that’s so (“SO”) interesting. (“AND AND SINCE YOU GOT TO MEET”)
Q: Right. So because of the Paramount tie-in, I think it has to be a Paramount picture.
J: Oh, I think it should be. (“UH”) Let me check back here.
Q: Especially since the entity’s name is Michael. And I think He’s the angel Michael, as I mentioned to you over the phone. I think He’s an angel.
J: As opposed to your brother, the Devil Michael. No.
Q: (small laugh)
J: (laughs) I’m joking, Michael Russell. (“HERE” “DAYTIME”) Teasing.
Q: That’s okay. (“BUT UM”) Today, did you just hear that, um, Liz Leustig died?
J: No. (“SHE”) Who’s that?
Q: She was the casting director on “The Saint.” She was hit by a car in Russia and died. (“NO”) So how many films has this been where people have had freak accidents?
J: Oh God.
Q: There was — what was that film?
J: Oh, that’s so sad. (“UM”) “Vampire in Brooklyn.” (“YEAH”)
Q: There was, um, (“OH”) — oh — “The Crow.” (“WHICH”) It didn’t become a Paramount movie after that. (“BUT” “WHAT ARE”) Have there been any films that I missed (“WHERE THAT”) where people have died that you can think of?
J: Not off the top of my head but I’m sure there are. (“YEAH”)
Q: Anyway, it’s not something that (“UHH” “ISN’T IT” “SO TRUE”) is an especially appealing subject for a book. (“NO” “BUT”) I mean we all have to go sometime and it’s just (“THERE”) there’ve been all these freakish things happening.
J: That’s so weird.
Q: I don’t think Michael’s doing them though. (“I’M” “SURE HE IS”) Yes. (“UH-HUH”) So let’s see — so what else? So do you have any questions about my experiences?
J: No, but I want to — away from the office where I’m not being interrupted by phone calls every two seconds — sit down and talk and hear all about it. I really want to hear about your trip to Oklahoma and the people you met. Let me pick this call up. (“LIAR”) Hello? (“NOBODY”) Hello? (“HI BLAISE”) Hi, this is Allison. Hi. (“OH YEAH”) Uh-huh. (“YOU”) Uh-huh. (“FRIEND” “CALL”) Hi. Okay, can you fax us this information? (“OWL”) Let me give you the fax number. We’re looking for his branch, his mailing address and a copy of his Academy card. (“ALREADY”) Terrific. Thank you. Bye-bye. (“SO THE BIG”)
Q: The big Paramount film this year for the Academy campaign, I guess, is “Braveheart.”
J: Yeah. Definitely “Braveheart.” (“AND”)
Q: I’ve been doing some research on (“OF UM”) my (“AND”) family tree and it turns out that Russell (“UH”) goes back to Scotland.
J: Oh, how fun. (“YOU’RE RIGHT”) Oh, it does. Scotland. (“UH-HUH”) Huh.
Q: Yeah. I’m also researching my mother’s ancestry now and her maiden name was King. (“I’M”)
J: What kind of name was that? King?
Q: I’m not sure because she was adopted.
J: Ohhh. (“SO I’M”)
Q: I’m still waiting to find out about that. So all these things are going into my book. (“YEAH” “VERY”) Now — (“THE”) the thing about your fainting spells. And that’s what I mentioned to you before (“OH NO”) because I’ve had fainting spells too. And our friend Marie “UH-HUH”) has had fainting spells. (“MORE”) It’s not necessarily a bad thing because the Entity usually draws from people He likes. (“TURN IT DOWN”) So we should be glad that He chose us. (“OH SHIT”) Right?
J: How funny.
Q: Right? (“WELL I GUESS THERE’S SOME”)
J: Yeah. (“AS LONG AS NOT”)
Q: No damage was done.
J: I bet there’s interesting — that’s a very positive (“RIGHT”) way of looking at that. (“IT IS”)
Q: It is. Now there are some other things, though, that are a little bit (MORE”) more frightening like Carol’s baby being born three months early with the eyes open. (“YEAH” “YOU KNOW”) I don’t know if that’s a tie-in or not. (“BUT THAT’S MORE”) That’s more frightening.
J: That is frightening. (“HAVE YOU EVER”)
Q: Do you ever speak to Carol?
J: Yeaaaaah. Yeah. I do. I love her. (“NO”)
Q: I called her to wish her good luck — (“IN HER NEW”) her new position at Fox. (“CALL YOU BACK”) But I haven’t — (“I DIDN’T HEAR”) — ever hear back from her. So, anyway —
J: Well, she’s been very busy. She is, in fact — I don’t even know if she’s back from New York yet (“SHE WOULDN’T”) because she’s working on “Waiting to Exhale.” And that’s her movie.
Q: What is that about?
J: Ummm.
Q: One line. (“UM-HUH”)
J: Four women. I don’t know — I haven’t seen it yet — but there’s the four women and their love — or lack of love affairs. (“SSS” “WE FUCK”)
Q: Oh, okay. Well, that sounds like my life.
J: But it’s Angela Bassett (“RIGHT”) and Whitney Houston.
Q: Oh, right. Whitney Houston is a fellow Leo. I’m a Leo too.
J: Aahhhh. (“VIOLENT”)
Q: And so is President Clinton.
J: Oh, that’s interesting. (“IS IT”) But she hasn’t been back. So if you haven’t heard from her, it’s maybe because of that. (“RIGHT”) I talk to her all the time. (“CRYING FIT”)
Q: Well, people in the film industry are so busy. It’s like who has time to return anyone’s call?
J: Isn’t it frightening?
Q: It’s very frightening. That’s why I’m happy to be away from it. I’m trying to think what else I should ask you. (“DON’T FEEL BAD”) Well, so, of course, everything just about comes up in these interviews. So even little things — (“I MEAN YOU’LL”) later on, you’ll read it. (“IT’S A”)
J: So, tell me what kind of stuff you want to know from me so I’ll remember to tell you the right thing.
Q: Well, it’s sort of a tell-all. (“I MEAN I’M NOT SAYING ANY”) It’s becoming a tell-all book of an industry. (“NOT THAT”) Not through any choice of my own — but just about anything comes up sometimes. Because it’s about people being overlooked and what-have-you. (“SO LIKE”) For example, once I was talking about the time I didn’t get a Publicists Guild Award for “Forrest Gump.”
J: Um-huh. (“YOU KNOW”)
Q: And I know that you have nothing to do with that. It was probably because I was freelance and not on staff.
J: Right.
Q: But that was one thing that came up. Can you believe it? (“NO I”)
J: Yeah, I can believe it because these are things people don’t (“THEY THINK”) think about. I mean you know. It’s like out of sight is out of mind. So, yeah, I believe it.
Q: And plus my table position was bad but I didn’t really mind. I liked being with Shaylee.
J: Well, that’s kind of hard to control because all the other people are on the staff so — you know.
Q: No, I know. Exactly. (“GAIN WEIGHT”)
J: It’s tough. It’s very tough.
Q: Um-huh.
J: I agree with you.
Q: But thank you for (“EHH” “SENDING”) paying all my bills. I guess the only thing I haven’t been paid for —
J: Always. (“IS”)
Q: — the night before I went to Oklahoma I had to do news releases for “Stephen King’s Thinner” and that New York movie —
J: Oh, “Night Falls on Manhattan.” Did you give those to me?
Q: Yeah, I think so. I mailed it in. So, hopefully, you got that. So, if you can check on that.
J: Okay. Got it.
Q: That would help. I spent the whole night before I left working on those news releases. Because I had to go to the bookstore to get a copy of Stephen King’s paperback and look at the positioning to make sure the positioning would be right because I didn’t have time to read the whole book and Eileen needed it ‘right now.’ (“SO”) So, as a result, I couldn’t really prepare for my trip. But, anyway — but look at this book, Allison, it’s 300 pages so far and it’s just my two preliminary calls and my first day of interviews — 300 (“WOW”) single-spaced pages.
J: Wow.
Q: I had a missing time episode.
J: You had a missing time episode? You mean like you don’t know where the time went? That kind of —
Q: How could I do 300 pages of interview material in one day? Single-spaced?
J: My God.
Q: My God.
J: Oohh. (“SO”)
Q: So I have a lot to try to figure out. And —
J: Oh, it’s complicated.
Q: It’s really complicated because I’ve also had things like burning bush phenomena.
J: What does that mean?
Q: Two bushes outside my condo burned up —
J: Oh, you’re kidding.
Q: — about a year ago. I mean there have been all these things. I have to make a confession to you.
J: Um-huh.
Q: When I first came back and I was trying to deal with all this and I called you. Remember all my frantic conversation?
J: Right. (“I DON’T EVEN”)
Q: I remember — now I’m beginning to remember some of the people I tried to call — like the head of the sound department — I can’t remember her name offhand. (“BUT”) I was trying to (“HELP PE”) find people to help me with my tapes.
J: Right.
Q: Don’t tell anyone but I thought I might have been the reincarnation of Jesus Christ.
J: Oh my God.
Q: Can you believe that? (“NO”) You know why? (“BECAUSE OF THE”) The Paramount mountain symbolism. I mean there are all these weird things going on.
J: This is going over my head. The mountain symbolism? (“IT’S” “MOUNTAIN”)
Q: The mountain. Like Moses on the mountain.
J: Ohhhhhh. (“THE TEN”)
Q: Remember the re-release of “The Ten Commandments” that we worked on?
J: Uh-huh. (“DID YOU EVER GO TO”)
Q: Did you have a chance to come to my condo and see it?
J: Yeah. When you first moved in. (“YEAH”)
Q: You didn’t see (“MY”) — I bought this thing for my press kits. (“UH”) You know — what I put all my press kits in?
J: Uh-uh. I didn’t.
Q: This beautiful thing.
J: Is it sort of a bookcase thing?
Q: Well, I thought it was a steamer trunk.
J: Ahhhhhh.
Q: It turns out it might be (“UH-HUH”) the Ark of the Covenant. (“UH-HUH”)
J: Where’d you buy it?
Q: I bought it at this antique store near the Nuart Theatre.
J: Wow.
Q: I know.
J: What makes you think that? That it could be the Ark?
Q: I measured the cubits (“UH-HUH”) in terms of in the book of Exodus (“AND LET IT SPEAK”) I worked on “Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.”
J: Right. Of course.
Q: So it’s just funny. I have — (“AND”) and I think I also have the original Declaration of Independence.
J: Where could you have gotten that?
Q: At an antique store on Hyperion. I paid $45 for it.
J: But isn’t that in a museum anywhere? (“NO”)
Q: No. The original was lost at the printers. So I think that the angel Michael is working through my subconscious mind and having me buy all these priceless antiques (“NEXT YEAR”) to prove He exists. (“WE’RE WAITING”)
J: One second.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: ALLISON PICKS UP THE PHONE TO ANSWER A CALL.)
J: Hello? (“PRAY”) Okay, great. Thank you. Hi, Rebecca. (“FRIGHTEN”) Is she the sweetest? She is the sweetest. That’s great. That’s great. Well, I’m only sorry she’s going to miss the party. I have this toy. But that’s so nice of her. Tell her thank you so much. I mean, between you and I, when we started giving out the money I was, like, embarrassed because it’s like it wasn’t looking fun. It wasn’t looking like these (“TEACHERS”) — so I mean we weren’t going to call anybody. We just figured if people were going to contribute they were. But then we started discovering that some people hadn’t got the notice, etc., so tell her “Thank you so very much” and thank you for following up. I appreciate it a lot and happy holiday. Thank you. Bye. Oh my God. (“SO I”)
Q: So I have to deal with all this stuff. (“HE MIGHT TAKE”)
J: Take them to someplace — where do you —
Q: I contacted them. (“TALK TO MARLA” “I CA”) Well, I called Sotheby’s. It’s a long story. No one will believe me. I mean I wouldn’t believe it if I didn’t have the angel Michael living with me in my condo doing parlor tricks every so often.
J: What did they say? Did they say anything?
Q: They said the Ark was a more modern piece. They didn’t come and look at it. (“BUT”) Actually, one of them is coming into L.A. in January. So he might drop by. (“HANGER”) He doesn’t know I have the Declaration of Independence too.
J: Wow. (“AND”)
Q: And Independence Hall is shut down because of the budget crisis.
J: Oh, of course. (“BUT ANYWAY”)
Q: So I have all this phenomena I’m trying to figure out and deal with — (“IN”) doing my book. (“NO”) So if you can please mention to Sherry Lansing, “I think this would be a good thing for you to look into.” I’d really appreciate it.
J: Okay, (“IT”) certainly, when the opportunity comes up.
Q: Exactly. (“EXACT”)
J: You know, you have to wait for those moments. (“RIGHT” “FROM A”)
Q: For example, like, “Oh, Sherry, by the way —” (“ACT REAL WEIRD”)
J: But, you know, (“BY”) I could always ask her office too if she received the letter you sent her back in August.
Q: I’d really appreciate it because we’ve always been close friends. I wouldn’t just tell this to anyone.
J: Sure. But let me just ask you so I’ll make sure that I have it right. Did you send her a manuscript or anything?
Q: No. I just sent a letter telling her when the show was going to be on and a copy of the Fortean Times magazine article that I had first seen about the “talking poltergeist.”
J: And tell me — let me just make sure. What was the TV show (“OH”) called again?
Q: It was called “Ghosts, Mediums, Psychics: Put To The Test.” (“UH-HUH” “SHOULD I” “NO”) Psychics: P — S — Y (“RIGHT”) — C — H — I — C — S. (“THANK YOU” “BUT — TWO”) And I have two videos at home too so I can always send her a video.
J: (reading as she writes) “To Sherry in August.” I’m going to see one of her assistants — (“HOLD TOGETHER”)
Q: In October — (“SORRY”) October was when I sent it to her.
J: In October, okay. (“THE WEEK”)
Q: The special aired on October 30th.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I MEANT NOVEMBER 30TH.)
J: Oh, of course. It would — yeah. (“NUT”) A natural for Halloween time. (“SO”)
Q: So mention it to her. Because I don’t know if she knows — does she know me? Does she even — I mean —
J: I don’t know.
Q: I mean she knows of me. I mean because of the speeches and everything (“ABOUT YOU”) but I don’t know if she — I don’t think I’ve ever been formally introduced to her.
J: I don’t know (“YEAH”) if she knows you or not.
Q: Okay. (“AND SHE”)
J: And she is gone until Christmas on a (“TOM”) cruise.
Q: Oh, okay, well so I won’t (“HOL”) hold my breath.
J: Well, you won’t hear anything before Christmas. She’ll be back next weekend and I won’t.
Q: That’s fine because I’m not finished with my book, anyway. I mean I have (“YOU KNOW A LOT OF”) transcribing still to do.
J: She needs me again. (to assistant—designated as ‘A’—outside office) Do you need me? I’m sorry.
A: . . . from Alan Ladd’s office.
J: Okay. (to me) Hold one second. (picks up receiver) Hi, Annie. How are you? I’m okay. (“I BELIEVE”) Oh, you’re kidding. So he’s on his way — well, you know what, we sent him a lovely little present anyway. And I just sent it — I think I sent it to the office. Yeah. So. Well — and you’ll take the roses home and — yeah. (squeals) That’s okay. He’s all part of the package. (“SO”) Terrific. Well, that’s — (“EH”) and you know why — that’s half of it right there is thefact that he’s been acknowledged for his part in it so — oh, God, I know. I flew last week so I (“HEAVEN”) understand. Well, that’s cool. And you must be excited. Did you guys get a copy of the list? (“THEY”) Okay. As long as you got it. (“OFTEN”) Yes. Because I left him a message too. Isn’t that funny? (“UMM”) Oh, that’s so funny. Oh, that’s great. That’s so funny. Oh, he’s sweet. Oh, cool. Cool. Cool. Very good. Well, have happy holiday. Are you going away? Oh great. Oh good. Yeah. But I’ve got babies now so traveling during the holidays is just forget it. Not fun. Uh-uh. Especially because you got the presents and the toys. Nuhno. Forget it. (laughs) Well, you have a great time and I’ll talk to you after the holiday. Okay, bye. (“WHO CARES”)
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I PICK UP A MOVIE TIE-IN SOUVENIR PENCIL THAT I SUDDENLY NOTICED ON THE FLOOR.)
Q: By the way, Allison, this was on the floor. Was this supposed to be on the floor? Or was this poltergeist phenomena?
J: Probably poltergeist phenomena.
Q: Really?
J: I mean it’s not supposed to be on the floor.
Q: Well, was this in your pencil holder?
J: I don’t know. Or it could have (“IT”) fallen off the desk kind-of-thing but now I’m not going to know.
Q: This is a “School Ties” pencil which was on the floor.
J: Sherry Lansing.
Q: And a Sherry Lansing tie-in. She produced the film. And I wrote the press kit.
J: So funny.
Q: It’s weird.
J: That’s so funny. Just little — tiny things like this.
Q: Exactly.
J: (picking up the phone again) Hello? (“LINE THREE AGAIN”) Oh, okay. Hold on. Hey, Mar(y). Are you happy? Do you like what they did? (“NO”) Oh, I thought you were going to be there. Okay. Wow. Okay. Yeah, only one done. Okay. (“MAR”) Well, listen. I took out the roses to three people cause Reuther and Douglas are in Africa and Laddy just left for Hawaii. So I was just about to call Eric to tell him, “You don’t have to send roses for Laddy.” Uh, (“UH”) Yeah. Okay. Alrighty. Uh-huh. Okay. Cool. And what did we end up — we ended up with Dome? Okay. Oh, listen, I — listen to me — I sound like a snob here. No, I think it’s wonderful. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Isn’t that amazing? I do too. That little cutey pie. (“UH-HUH”) (laughs) (“WHAT YOU GET”) I wanted to go to them. I mean Harrison’s landing at 3:45 so it’s fine. And he’s probably just landing right now. Okay. I want as many, please, as possible because everybody’s leaving for the holiday. Okay, cool. And what did you — what is McQueeny getting? I really want her to get hers too. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay, cool. Cool. Cool. Yes, I have it on right now. It’s beautiful. I love it. Oh, my husband loves it too. I know. It’s great. Thank you. Reuther and Douglas. Oh, and Laddie. Alan Ladd, Jr. Bye.
Q: I was just noticing (“YOU KNOW”) some of the things in your office. Like the Star talks about Michael Jackson. He had weird fainting spells. (“OH”) And dehydration.
J: Oh.
Q: And his first name is Michael.
J: Uhahhhhhhh.
Q: Did you have (“DE”) dehydration?
J: Uhhh. (“WHEN DUR”)
Q: During your —
J: Not that I remember — I mean it’s not like — (“THE”) at the moment you know that.
Q: They might not have tested for that.
J: No. (“OOOUU” “I WONDER IF I”)
Q: I don’t know if I did or not. (“NO”) I think so. (“I — I — IT”) Perhaps, because (“NO”) there was a period when the Entity possessed me. And I definitely felt dehydrated.
J: Wahh.
Q: No, I know. So this book is going to be really great. (“NO”) I also noticed too. That magazine also talks about O. J. Simpson. Remember when we saw him at the premiere for (“YEAH”) “The Naked Gun” or — yeah, that was the premiere. (“WHAT” “SO”) Maybe that ties in too.
J: Isn’t that weird? (“UH-HUH”) That — (“OF IT”) it’s so funny now that you’re talking about it all.
Q: I didn’t watch (“WHY STALL”) the trial (“GUESS WHAT”) but the fact that I know all these people and have interacted with so many of them.
J: I know. It’s so weird.
Q: It’s weird — well, you have too. (“OKAY”) And, plus, you’re from Virginia.
J: Um-huh.
Q: Which is right near Tennessee. (“WHERE THE BELL”) The original Bell Witch case took place there. Did you ever have a chance to research your family tree?
J: No. Umm —
Q: Is anyone in your family —
J: Tom’s parents are researching their side of the tree but, no, my family is —
Q: Where’s he from?
J: Well, they’re Irish but — Philadelphia. (“ACCORDING”)
Q: Philadelphia?
J: Uh-huh. (to assistant) I’m sorry. I’m right here.
A: Tom Skerritt is on the phone. (“OF”)
J: Oh, okay, yeah. (“HOW’VE YOU BEEN”) Okay.
Q: Well, anyway, you might check.
J: One Second. Hi, Tom. I did get your message and absolutely, you know, we’re — it’s sort of like ‘Let’s get through the holidays and then we’re really going to get in to “Eye for an Eye.”’ And we’re delighted to have Wanda. Oh. Just it’s a charity thing. It’s her and a guest. Uh-huh. Well, you know. I’ll tell you. It’s hard to say (“NO”) because it’s a charity event and this is the first time. They’re writers. Do you know — I don’t know if you’ve met them or not. Yeah. Rick and Amanda. They’re the loveliest couple and they have a little boy. And the little boy has the neurofibromatosis. And it’s a scary thing because these little children get tumors all over them and, of course, you know, it could prove fatal at any time. Because it could be a brain tumor — whatever — but, anyway, that’s a charity. This is their first big thing that they’re doing for the charity. I think they’re a very, you know, well-loved couple in Hollywood. (“OKAY”) So, hopefully, the whole industry will come out and support this event. And, you know, therefore we won’t have extra seats but there’s always the — Paramount’s got a hundred seats for our top executives and the stars. So what we do is we invite the people we need to and then if we have room we try, of course, to invite celebrities because that gets the press out. So it’s all — you know.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: ALLISON LEAVES HER DESK WITH THE RECEIVER AND BEGINS LOOKING THROUGH HER PURSE FOR SOMETHING.)
J: Uh-huh. Right, exactly.
Q: (small laugh)
J: Exactly.
Q: You can’t find your keys?
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: ALLISON INDICATES SHE IS LOOKING FOR HER LIPSTICK.)
Q: Oh, your lipstick? (into tape recorder) Allison can’t find her lipstick. (small laugh)
J: I just had it.
Q: She just had it.
J: Oh yeah. Okay. Oh good. We like that too. Absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, well, that’s nice of you. Thank you very much. Thank you. It’s the night before opening so it’s definitely scheduled for the 11th.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: ALLISON REMOVES THE LIPSTICK FROM HER PURSE.)
Q: You found it? He gave it back to you.
J: I looked everywhere —
Q: I know. I know.
( . . . )
Q: So you were looking, you couldn’t find it and then you found it mysteriously?
J: It wasn’t there.
Q: I know.
J: And then it was there.
Q: See, that’s what He does.
J: I’m telling you. Because I looked for it two times in my bag.
Q: But real quick — I think I’m a channel for Him because as a child I was sexually abused. Because Michael, my brother, slept on his stomach and I didn’t. (“AND OUR MAMA HA”) Our mom might have had boyfriends.
J: Ahhhh.
Q: So you’ll have to read about it in my book to figure it all out. But the fact that you were talking about cancer on that last call — (“HASN’T”) our department had more than its share of cancer when you consider all the people.
J: Yeah, scary.
Q: It’s very scary.
J: Very scary.
Q: So —
J: Very scary.
Q: — I don’t know if it ties in or not. (“BECAUSE”) People do get cancer. But it does seem like we’ve had more than our fair share.
J: It’s very scary.
Q: We’ve all had something. (“YOU KNOW”) You know everyone has had little things.
J: Yeah.
Q: Like Blaise’s finger. My brother had Bell’s Palsy.
J: Ohhh.
Q: Bell.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: TAPE #29, SIDE #1 ENDS HERE.)
[2021 UPDATE: I HAD BEEN CONTEMPLATING THE INSTANCES THROUGHOUT MY LIFE WHEN PEOPLE WITH WHOM THERE HAD BEEN AN ACQUAINTANCE SUDDENLY DIED (SUCH AS A TALENT AGENCY CLIENT'S FRIEND, ACTOR PAUL LYNDE) AND THERE HAD BEEN AN ARTICLE IN THE LOS ANGELES TIMES ABOUT ACCIDENTAL DEATHS DURING THE MAKING OF HOLLYWOOD MOVIES. ALSO SOMETHING FOR REFLECTION DURING THE TIME WHEN I WAS WORKING AT PARAMOUNT CONCERNED WHETHER OR NOT I SHOULD CONSIDER FINDING SOMEONE TO DATE AS THIS SEEMED TO BE THE COMMON BEHAVIOR OF PEOPLE IN SOCIETY. I NEVER WAS INTERESTED IN A HETEROSEXUAL RELATIONSHIP AND MY FIRST 'CRUSH' WAS A MALE COWORKER DURING MY COLLEGE YEARS WHO I FELT WAS REPRESSING HIS GAY SIDE WHILE HAVING ONE NIGHT STANDS WITH GIRLS AS EVERYONE SEEMED TO BE ATTRACTED TO HIM. WE ONCE WENT TO SEE SOME MOVIES TOGETHER AND THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF OUR PERSONAL INVOLVEMENT. WHEN I WAS A TALENT AGENT I REALIZED THAT SOME OF THE CLIENTS (MALE AND FEMALE) WERE EXCEPTIONALLY ATTRACTIVE; HOWEVER, THE ACTOR/AGENT DYNAMIC MADE IT UNTHINKABLE AND UNETHICAL TO EVEN CONSIDER SUCH A POSSIBILITY. MY FAVORITE PERSON TO GO OUT WITH WAS MARIE, WHO HAD BEEN A CLERICAL ASSISTANT ON A 'WHEN NEEDED' BASIS AS HER PRIORITY WAS HER SINGING AND ACTING CAREER. WE DIDN'T HAVE SEXUAL FEELINGS FOR ONE ANOTHER YET MANY OF OUR INTERESTS WERE THE SAME. WHILE WORKING AT PARAMOUNT THERE WAS AN UNUSUAL MOMENT WHEN A MALE ACQUAINTANCE CAME OVER AND STARTED CARESSING MY BACK WHILE I WAS SPEAKING TO SOMEONE. THE EXPRESSION OF APPARENT ROMANTIC INTEREST SURPRISED ME AND I REALIZED THAT HIS LOOKS AND PERSONALITY WERE COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT I CONSIDERED ATTRACTIVE ALTHOUGH NO OTHER FLIRTING OCCURRED AFTER THIS INCIDENT. SOON LATER HE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER. THEN AT A SCREENING I WAS HOSTING A WOMAN ASKED IF HE'D SHOWN UP AS APPARENTLY SHE'D BEEN TOLD BY HIM THAT HE WAS GOING TO SEE THE MOVIE. IT TURNED OUT THAT SHE WAS HIS CONCERNED WIFE. AS A STAFF WRITER, I WAS WORKING AT THE COMPUTER MUCH OF THE TIME AND WASN'T 'WATCHING MY DIET.' I REALIZED THIS WAS BECOMING A PROBLEM WHEN I NEEDED TO HAVE A PHOTO TAKEN OF MYSELF TO ACCOMPANY A PUBLICISTS GUILD ARTICLE I'D WRITTEN FOR THE ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP DIRECTORY BOOK. I'D MET PHOTOGRAPHER TIMOTHY FIELDING AFTER NOTICING THE QUALITY OF HIS 'HEADSHOTS' FOR SOME CLIENTS. WHEN I RECEIVED THE PHOTOS THAT HE MADE I WAS DISTURBED BY HOW PUFFY MY FACE LOOKED AND REALIZED THAT I HAD TO START BEING MORE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT I ATE. I NOTICED THAT IT WAS WHEN SITTING DOWN THAT MY FACE BECAME 'PUFFY.' I HAD TO USE ONE OF THE 'FAT PHOTOS' FOR THE DIRECTORY YET SCHEDULED ANOTHER PHOTO SHOOT SO THAT I COULD HAVE PHOTOS TAKEN OF ME WHILE STANDING UP. THE PHOTOS OF MYSELF SEATED AND STANDING UP ARE SHOWN BELOW ALONG WITH A PHOTO OF MY TWIN BROTHER MIKE THAT WAS TAKEN BY A DIFFERENT PHOTOGRAPHER AROUND THE SAME TIME. BEING OVERWEIGHT SEEMINGLY DIMINISHED FURTHER MY INTEREST IN HAVING AN INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP WITH ANOTHER PERSON. USING MY TIME AWAY FROM THE OFFICE TO WORK ON WRITING PROJECTS WAS HOW I USED MUCH OF MY NON-WORKING HOURS. AFTER MY 'PARANORMAL INITIATION,' I WONDERED ABOUT THE PERSONALITY OF 'GOD.' THE BEST SOURCE OF INFORMATION EVENTUALLY FOUND IN THIS REGARD WERE THE ORATION TRANSCRIPTS OF PEOPLE REPRESENTING THE ASCENDED REALM OF EARTH LIFE AS PUBLISHED IN MANY BOOKS (WHEN CONSIDERED IN RELATION TO MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES OF THE GOD FORCE THROUGH THE VARIOUS INTERACTION OF MY 'GUIDE IN ONENESS'/'GUARDIAN ANGEL'). MY PERSONAL REPORTING ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF 'CHANNELING' IS PRESENTED WITH A CHANNELING CASES INDEX LIST PRESENTING MORE THAN 200 ARTICLE AND VIDEO LINKS.]
