TELEPHONE INTERVIEW — TAPE #13, SIDE #2
Q: Mark Russell Bell (interviewer in Los Angeles)
L: Ellen Russell (my mother in California)
Q: Hi. This is Mark.
L: Oh, hi.
Q: Everything’s fine.
L: Oh, good.
Q: Have you figured it out yet? (“NO”)
Q: You’ll never guess. (“NO”)
L: Did Mike —
Q: It’s so freaky.
Q: Remember those burning bushes outside my condo a while ago? On the hill right outside?
L: Yes. I think so. Yes.
Q: The only way I can express it is sort of like hitting bingo on a cosmic lottery game. (“UH-HUH”) It’s all about genetics. (“NO”) I’ve been — (“UHH”) uhh — (“I”) are you sitting down?
Q: Are you sitting down?
L: Well, you can tell me, honey. I’m sitting down.
Q: I’m the reincarnation of Jesus Christ.
Q: I’m the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. (“WE”)
L: We all are.
Q: No, we aren’t.
L: Yes, we are.
Q: Think — just think about it. You don’t have to say anything more right now. (“OH”) Okay? Okay, I’ll talk to you later.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: MY MOTHER SOON CALLS ME BACK AND I TURN ON MY TAPE RECORDER AGAIN. THE LISTENING DEVICE GOES ON AND OFF AT FIRST.)
Q: You know — (“YOU KNOW I”)
L: Were you chosen to have a call?
Q: What? (“YOU”)
L: Were you chosen to have a call? No, it’s about the reincarnation.
Q: I can’t talk about this now. I mean I want you to think about it a while.
L: I am. I am. I — I’ve thought about it. I’ve always — said to — I always said — (“I HEAR” “YOU”) yes, you are definitely —
Q: Well, what about the abuse? (“HAD”) Was there anything more you want to say about that? (“NO”)
L: What abuse? (“YOU KNOW UNCLE”) Did you call Paul?
Q: Yes. (“ASK HIM” “BUT”) But I don’t want to talk about Paul. I want to hear it from you.
L: Well, so you did call him and ask him?
Q: Yes, I did.
L: And what did he say?
Q: It’s none of your business. I just want —
L: Oh —
Q: — to hear what your business is. (“YEAH”)
L: Oh, my business is I want to say yes. I do believe. I’m very spiritual, believe it or not, and I do believe —
Q: No, about the abuse. I want to know —
L: No —
Q: — that’s what I want to know about.
L: I don’t want to hear about that. You said no so I’m not going to —
Q: I want to hear what you — what —
Q: — what you remember.
L: So Paul said that Bob abused you sexually?
Q: It’s none of your business what he said.
L: Well, I don’t care what he said.
Q: I want to know what you say.
L: He did not. That’s what I say.
Q: Alright, okay, never mind.
L: Well, okay, about Jesus Christ — I think that we all — of course, we’re God’s children. You are —
Q: No, I — I’m not asking for you to explain it now.
L: I am — (“UH-HUH” “MARK”)
Q: I’m just asking for you to think about it —
L: Mark —
Q: — a little while.
L: I don’t want to think about it. (“YEAH”) I mean you think about it.
Q: No, I mean, after all the things I’ve told you. (“UH-HUH”)
L: You’ve told me — (“UH-HUH”) Mark.
Q: Okay, I’ll talk to you tomorrow.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: DURING ANOTHER CONVERSATION SOON AFTER THIS, MY MOTHER SAID, “WELL, IF YOU’RE THE REINCARNATION OF JESUS CHRIST, THEN THAT MAKES ME THE REINCARNATION OF THE VIRGIN MARY.” I FOUND MYSELF REPLYING, “YOU’RE THE REINCARNATION OF A WICKED WITCH!” THE REMAINDER OF THIS TAPE SIDE IS A PARAMOUNT PICTURES PUBLICITY DEPARTMENT WORK SESSION WHEN CHERYL BOONE ISAACS, CAROL SEWELL AND I WERE DRAFTING SPEECHES FOR PARAMOUNT’S PARTICIPATION AT SHOWEST IN 1993. I RECEIVED A BASKET OF FOOD THANKING ME FOR MY WORK FROM SHERRY LANSING. THIS CONVERSATION ALSO HAS SPIRIT MESSAGES INTERSPERSED.)