RADIO CALL — TAPE #641, SIDE #2 EXCERPT
Q: Mark Russell Bell
E: Erik, “Matt Drudge” radio show screener
C: caller from New Mexico
M: Matt Drudge
J: Jim, caller from Florida
S: commercial spokespersons
E: KNBC. This is Matt Drudge program. Can you hang on a second?
C: . . . have no idea that the people out here would invest in it. And that’s how they made their money.
M: Well hold on. The problem is when they’re not generating revenue.
C: Oh I’m not saying that . . . you’re saying that this guy that’s got $20 billion — $20 million and $30 million — hey, he didn’t know that. . . .
M: Oh please. He’s posing for the Vanity Fair spread. He’s the one buying the latest —
C: Vanity Fair is using that spread to make money for people like you. . . .
M: Oh like me? I’m looking at these people and I’m snickering. I’m saying they’re going to get theirs.
C: Well they don’t — (“THEY”) listen. Anybody who has invested in the market, number one, knows that it’s a gamble. Anybody who took it on a 25% downpayment knows that they’re damn stupid.
M: You think Granny—who’s letting the mutual guy do everything—knows what she’s investing in? You think she knows what a Yahoo is?
C: I think if she doesn’t know then she’s stupid to begin with. You ought to get a professional to handle the money. (“WELL”)
M: Well even the professionals. I mean I’m looking at a story tomorrow. It goes inside the Harvard Business School. And the students last year plunged into the Internet revolution. A lot of them — the spring Harvard business class, 2,000+ students, were headed for start-ups. Now the professor says the students are scared to death.
C: They should be. . . .
M: The freefall in the stock market this week shook their confidence and now they’re changing career plans.
C: They’re not listening to the basic plan on what logic is for investing in the market. Anybody — (“Y[OU]”) just don’t do that. Nobody goes on margin. You do that, you’re an idiot.
M: This whole country, sir, has gone on margin, if you look at the amount of savings we have right now. We are living on margin.
C: What did we lose? $2.2 trillion in the span of two days?
M: And not of my money, sir.
C: Oh it’s not mine either.
M: They’re not touching my money.
C: And I’ve been in the market. But I have a professional who handles my money. . . . (feedback) (“NOW”)
M: . . . Thank you for this wonderful engineering job. Thanks for the call there, New Mexico. I would say the gentleman disagreed with me but I don’t know what he’s offering there. (reading) “Mossad warns of attack on Vatican. As the Pope led Palm Sunday ceremonies before a hundred thousand people in St. Peter’s Square today, police are on high alert after a warning to Italy and the Vatican that there could be an Islamic terrorist attack on the Pope over the Easter period. The tipoff is said to have come from Mossad.”
E: Hi. Who’s this?
Q: Hi, my name’s Mark.
E: Hi, Mark. How are you?
Q: Very good.
E: Where are you calling from tonight, Mark?
Q: San Fernando Valley.
E: Oh yeah? What’s going on in San Fernando Valley, Mark?
Q: Not much.
E: I’m sorry to hear that.
Q: Just Matt at the moment.
E: Well that’s good. We like that. What do you want to say tonight?
Q: I want to talk about the E-stablishment and revenues. I, myself, have worked at some Internet companies. (“AND THERE’S”) The problem is quality control. There is no way of maintaining quality control.
E: Okay. You’re going to have to expand a little bit more for me.
Q: Well he was talking about a change of consciousness needed.
Q: I have my own website and I’ve never had an ad. Never I mean. And so all of this commerce being tied-in with websites —
Q: — is just off — I mean it was created in the first place to share information.
Q: Not as a means of making additional money. And that just shows how our culture is so preoccupied with profit —
Q: — that it corrupts everything.
E: Um-huh. Alright I’ll buy that.
E: That sounds good. Now Mark, you know what though? You — I have to — I’ll be honest with you. It’s my job to tell you this. You sound a little boring.
Q: Okay. Well I’ll liven myself up.
E: Yeah. There you go.
E: Just step it up a notch for me cause it’s radio.
E: And we can’t see how beautiful you are. You know, we can’t —
E: We don’t have pictures here. I know the kids love the pictures but I’ve only got your voice to deal with. (“SO”)
Q: Okay. Okay.
E: Do me a favor. Step it up. I like the point so I’m going to put you on hold. He’s going to identify you as Mark from California, okay?
E: Alright. Thank you. (“HAT”) See? Already you’re livening up. I love it.
Q: I’m an amateur. What can I say?
E: There’s nothing wrong with that. I’m just — but you can think of me as your professional coach. (“OKAY”)
Q: What’s your name, by the way?
E: My name is Erik.
E: Hang on a second, Mark.
M: . . . possible indictments and further reports as these months chip away at the end of this administration. So Hilary vows to fight; if indicted, will not ask for pardon, joining her husband in that. And Vice President Gore was suggesting in recent weeks that he will not give a pardon to Bill Clinton. They wouldn’t dare indict me, the First Lady tells Dick Morris. (gives call-in telephone number) Line one, you’re on the air with Drudge.
M: Well you’re on the air.
Q: Oh okay. Yeah I wanted to make a point on —
M: Come on in, Jim.
J: Oh okay. Wasn’t sure you were talking to me. I don’t feel sorry for these clowns that’ve been piling in on this Wall Street deal.
M: Yeah, neither do I.
J: From the working man’s perspective, paying — I’m a truck driver. I’ve got my own truck and, buddy, they limit me on the hours of the day I can work. They limit me on what I can charge or get for freight per mile. This high fuel cost. No uh-uh, let them fall out of their bed of roses and finally come out of this dream world.
M: That’s right. Let them come down to Earth —
M: — and have to do something preferably with their hands. You know all this — this whole new generation — these Gen Xers and these GenYers and Zers and everything else coming —
M: They don’t know what work is.
M: They think sitting around, typing the keyboard, hitting “Enter,” trading — day trading, margin calling — they think that’s a hard day’s work.
J: (laughs) Well I tell you what. They can go to their doctor over their heart conditions that are stressed-out and crap all they want to. If I get myself in that kind of shape, they make me quit driving. You know what I’m saying?
M: There you go.
J: I don’t feel sorry for them. And when their bubble bursts, more power to the working man, you know?
M: And I tell you, sir. I tell you, Florida, I wouldn’t be so hard on them if they didn’t look down their nose at us.
M: And they do. These brats — these spoiled brats, these billionaire brats who’ve made their money overnight based on some digits flying through some phone line.
J: Well, you know, they sit up there and pure luck — that’s all in the world it is. I don’t think not a one of them’s got an ounce of intelligence. They can sit there and say for sure this is going to happen and that’s going to happen — it’s just potluck. And they sit up there and reap all that big money coming down out of Wall Street and, meanwhile, the working person suffers for it. Like, you know, NAFTA, the GAT —
M: Yeah. (or “YEAH”)
J: Our jobs went, like, bye-bye. You know? (Or “YOU KNOW”) And —
M: Yeah, they don’t — they’re the globalists. They don’t care about that either.
J: Send Wall Street overseas, you know?
M: Well they are. Look at what’s happening in Asia right now.
J: No, you don’t — no, I mean bus them up, pack them up, ship them off. (“LET”) Let Hong Kong have them.
J: You know?
M: They should set up a special island for all of these billionaire E-stablishment freaks.
J: Exactly. Let them —
M: And let them take — let them show off to each other.
J: Let them take their little boats and their yachts and all that stuff with them.
M: Maybe we’ll just — maybe just give them Manhattan. And they can sit there and they can trade and they can play and they can penthouse and they can dine and wine. They can sit there and eat frogs’ legs and do whatever they want to do. And leave the rest of us who love this country and who remember a time when the country was built on real things. What I say. But knowing the Drudge luck the Market will probably go soaring tomorrow. Last time we did this very show —
J: I’m being just as honest as I can be and as sincere as I can be. You know, they’re going to sit tomorrow morning and worry about how much money they’re losing. They’re not going to have to sit and worry about putting groceries on the table. When they start doing that, then I’m going to start feeling — if I’ve got a glass eye by that time —
M: Well —
J: — it might have a little glimmer of sympathy in it.
M: As fast as they made it, they can lose it, sir. If it’s all on paper. And all this is on paper. It’s not even on paper. It’s just on a screen.
M: I mean their — some of these guys probably have their whole portfolio — they don’t even have a printout of it probably.
J: You know what my portfolio consists of ?
J: My driver’s license, my health card and my DOT log book.
M: Man after my own heart.
M: Good luck to you. You’re a 21st Century type of man.
J: Give them hell.
M: I’m doing (it). (“I”)
J: See you.
M: And I’ll give you two nickels for a dollar by the time we’re out of this one. It’s Drudge on Sunday night.
S: I’m a research scientist. So when I got arthritis, I did —
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M: Matt Drudge. I’m with you on Sunday night on this vast network that we’re building. . . .
Q: Yes, it is.
E: Mark, stand by. I’m putting you back on hold. He knows you’re here and he’s coming to you.
Q: Thank you.
E: But just do me a favor and spice it up a little bit.
E: Thank you.
M: NATO was under tremendous pressure . . . I’m not saying make everything sensational, not make everything a siren, not make everything a huge bold print headline but if you’ve got some meat, if you’ve got an exclusive, play it like an exclusive. At least, made it readable . . . Mark in California with Drudge. Thanks for holding.
Q: Hi, Matt. I want to know why people aren’t as mad as hell about the commercialization of the Internet. I mean I don’t mean to quote Peter Finch but I’m not going to take it anymore. All this commercialization and disinformation.
M: Well I surf without graphics. I don’t see it. I zoom right by it. You know MSNBC — when I go into that site I just see text. And, by the way, the Russian President Putin is going to do a chat on MSNBC. I wonder if they’re looking for sponsors for that?
Q: The Internet was created as a wonderful source of information and knowledge. What is all this advertising crap? I mean I have a journalism website and I’ve never had an ad on my website.
M: Well I — you know I didn’t have an ad for four years but I finally had to start making some money to pay for all these lawsuits I’ve got.
Q: What do you thin(k) — have you been to testament.org?
M: (no response)
Q: I’m getting into some Hollywood stuff now. Some gossip that you don’t get in the tabloids.
M: Oh so you’re a second-generation Drudge?
Q: More of a second-generation Jesus but I think we can all try to emulate that.
M: Well you’re a typical Californian on a wild and wacky Sunday night with Asia melting and the stock market. With Janet Reno ready to mark Waco with yet another disaster coming April 19th. I predict she’s going to do it on April 19th. You watch. The planets will line up again.
Q: Well something better happen because people are so overwhelmed by materialism that —
M: Why don’t you make it to Washington? You sound perfect. You sound — you would’ve made the perfect IMF World Bank protestor.
Q: I figure if I give them the truth on my —
M: Dressed up in a grass skirt and boycotted The Gap.
Q: I feel if I just share the truth, they‘ll change.
M: You’re going to have — how do you get the eyeballs? How do we know to come to your site?
Q: Just go to testament.org.
M: Okay testament.org.
M: And he’s doing . . . showbiz stuff.
Q: Right. Well those tabloids — (“NO”) it’s just publicists now.
M: Well they’re all owned by one guy now. You know — one gentleman, David Pecker, has bought the Globe, the Star and the Enquirer. And he shifted — Tony Frost from the Globe is now running the Star. And the guy who used to run the National Examiner, Brian Williams, is now running the Globe. It’s all under one roof down in Lantana, down in Tabloid Valley. (“UM-HUH”) So you’re right. It’s wide open.
Q: I mean I worked in evil Hollywood. (“I MEAN”) I was a publicist myself and I would feed stories to the media and they would take whatever I gave them. They never questioned a goddamned thing.
M: Uh-oh. Well you sound like you could write a book or something.
Q: I have. I have and it’s not — I’m not even charging for it.
M: Alright, testa —
Q: Testament. T — E — S — T —
M: — testament.org —
M: — is where this gentleman lives and thanks for the call there. I think — I think it was a — (BLIP)
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Q: Testing one two three.
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Q: My tape recorder isn’t working properly so I don’t know how much I was able to record but I grabbed my headphones afterwards and it was so humiliating. There was some question of whether or not I was a man or a woman I mean and he commented about that. Anyway, we’ll see what he says after the commercials if my tape recorder still works. But I was shocked. After all the Email I’ve sent him at the website, he didn’t seem to know who I was. And it was convincing. Maybe that explains why even though his main topic seemed to be the stock market, that wasn’t prominent on the website. It was all about Elian and you know what he thinks about that debacle of newslessness. Just how involved with his website is he?
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I LISTENED TO THE FIRST HOUR AND A HALF OF THE SHOW THE FOLLOWING SUNDAY AND ALL DRUDGE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE GOVERNMENT-LED SEIZURE OF ELIAN. ON MAY 13TH I EMAILED A TRANSCRIPT OF MY CALL TO HIS SHOW AND THE FOLLOWING NIGHT LISTENED TO SOME OF HIS SHOW AND FOR THE FIRST TIME I HEARD HIM IDENTIFY CALLERS BY NAME WHEN HE WENT TO THEIR CALLS INSTEAD OF REFERRING TO WHAT LINE THEY WERE ON.)