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TELEPHONE INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT — TAPE #13, SIDE #2



Q: Mark Gordon Russell (interviewer in Los Angeles)
L: Ellen Russell (my mother in California)




(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: THE FIRST RECORDED CONVERSATION ON THIS TAPE SIDE IS WITH MY MOTHER. ALTHOUGH MANY OF THE INITIAL LOS ANGELES TAPES WERE TRANSCRIBED BEFORE I WAS ACCUSTOMED TO DETECTING THE LESS PRONOUNCED UNATTRIBUTED SOUNDS — AND BEFORE I REALIZED THERE COULD ALSO BE SPIRIT MESSAGES ON THESE TAPES AS WELL, I LISTENED TO THIS TAPE SIDE ON MARCH 6TH WHEN GOING OVER MY TRANSCRIBER'S NOTES FOR THE FIRST FIFTEEN TAPES [THIS NUMBER INCLUDES PROLOGUE TAPE SIDES] AND NOTED WHERE THERE WERE TAPPING/CLICKING SOUNDS.)

("EIGHT")

L: Hello?

Q: Hi. This is Mark.

L: Oh, hi.

Q: Everything's fine.

L: Oh, good.

Q: Have you figured it out yet? ("NO")

L: No.

Q: You'll never guess. ("NO")

L: Did Mike —

Q: It's so freaky.

L: What?

Q: Remember those burning bushes outside my condo a while ago? On the hill right outside?

L: Yes. I think so. Yes.

Q: The only way I can express it is sort of like hitting bingo on a cosmic lottery game. ("UH-HUH") It's all about genetics. ("NO") I've been — ("UHH") uhh — ("I") are you sitting down?

L: Genetics?

Q: Are you sitting down?

L: Well, you can tell me, honey. I'm sitting down.

Q: I'm the reincarnation of Jesus Christ.

L: Pardon?

Q: I'm the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. ("WE")

L: We all are.

Q: No, we aren't.

L: Yes, we are.

Q: Think — just think about it. You don't have to say anything more right now. ("OH") Okay? Okay, I'll talk to you later.

L: Good-bye.

Q: Bye.

(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: MY MOTHER SOON CALLS ME BACK AND I TURN ON MY TAPE RECORDER AGAIN. THE LISTENING DEVICE GOES ON AND OFF AT FIRST.)

Q: You know — ("YOU KNOW I")

L: Were you chosen to have a call?

Q: What? ("YOU")

L: Were you chosen to have a call? No, it's about the reincarnation.

Q: I can't talk about this now. I mean I want you to think about it a while.

L: I am. I am. I — I've thought about it. I've always — said to — I always said — ("I HEAR" "YOU") yes, you are definitely —

Q: Well, what about the abuse? ("HAD") Was there anything more you want to say about that? ("NO")

L: What abuse? ("YOU KNOW UNCLE") Did you call Paul?

Q: Yes. ("ASK HIM" "BUT") But I don't want to talk about Paul. I want to hear it from you.

L: Well, so you did call him and ask him?

Q: Yes, I did.

L: And what did he say?

Q: It's none of your business. I just want —

L: Oh —

Q: — to hear what your business is. ("YEAH")

L: Oh, my business is I want to say yes. I do believe. I'm very spiritual, believe it or not, and I do believe —

Q: No, about the abuse. I want to know —

L: No —

Q: — that's what I want to know about.

L: I don't want to hear about that. You said no so I'm not going to —

Q: I want to hear what you — what —

L: No.

Q: — what you remember.

L: So Paul said that Bob abused you sexually?

Q: It's none of your business what he said.

L: Well, I don't care what he said.

Q: I want to know what you say.

L: He did not. That's what I say.

Q: Alright, okay, never mind.

L: Well, okay, about Jesus Christ — I think that we all — of course, we're God's children. You are —

Q: No, I — I'm not asking for you to explain it now.

L: I am — ("UH-HUH" "MARK")

Q: I'm just asking for you to think about it —

L: Mark —

Q: — a little while.

L: I don't want to think about it. ("YEAH") I mean you think about it.

Q: No, I mean, after all the things I've told you. ("UH-HUH")

L: You've told me — ("UH-HUH") Mark.

Q: Okay, I'll talk to you tomorrow.

L: Bye.

(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: DURING ANOTHER CONVERSATION SOON AFTER THIS, MY MOTHER SAID, "WELL, IF YOU'RE THE REINCARNATION OF JESUS CHRIST, THEN THAT MAKES ME THE REINCARNATION OF THE VIRGIN MARY." I FOUND MYSELF REPLYING, "YOU'RE THE REINCARNATION OF A WICKED WITCH!" THE REMAINDER OF THIS TAPE SIDE IS A PARAMOUNT PICTURES PUBLICITY DEPARTMENT WORK SESSION WHEN CHERYL BOONE ISAACS, CAROL SEWELL AND I WERE DRAFTING SPEECHES FOR PARAMOUNT'S PARTICIPATION AT SHOWEST IN 1993. I RECEIVED A BASKET OF FOOD THANKING ME FOR MY WORK FROM SHERRY LANSING. THIS CONVERSATION ALSO HAS SPIRIT MESSAGES INTERSPERSED.)


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